Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-26

[Tamas]

Indeed, Infantino is a new low and that's saying something.

[Sheilbh]

Indeed, Infantino is a new low and that's saying something.

Yes. Truly yearning for the careful, responsible stewardship of Sepp Blatter

[Norgy]

When you make Blatter look good, you are really bad. 

[Valmy]

Who could have imagined this in 2022

This is World War I played out in miniature. A grinding stalemate.

Who knew this was the future of war?

21st Century Wars are truly nightmares. They all seem to last forever and don't really seem to have clear beginnings or ends, they just seem to slowly heat up and cook for years and years and years and slowly flame out with barely anything solved.

[crazy canuck]

The front in Ukraine is about 2x the length of the Western front in WWI. The Russians have had roughly more causalities than the total number of all casualties on the Western front.  And the war is now about the length of WWI.

So not so miniature.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

I think you're off by an order of magnitude on World War I casualties on the Western Front.  That was about 13MM.

[crazy canuck]

Right you are, I was thinking deaths.  But even then I am off.  The death toll of the Russians is closer to that of the Central Powers on the Western Front.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

And a putin-epstein link is now a thing too.

[Tamas]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/feb/03/ioc-president-kirsty-coventry-russia-2028-olympics-ukraine-sports-minister-fifa-gianni-infantino

IOC president gives clearest signal so far that Russia could be at 2028 Olympics
Kirsty Coventry: 'Keep sport a neutral ground'

This is so fucking disgusting, "neutral ground" means putting an = sign between Russia and Ukraine.

[The Brain]

Right you are, I was thinking deaths.  But even then I am off.  The death toll of the Russians is closer to that of the Central Powers on the Western Front.

Googling suggests that the Central Powers had about 1.5 million dead on the Western Front.

[The Minsky Moment]

Who could have imagined this in 2022

Before or after Russia invaded?

After Russia invaded and lost the battle of Kiev, sure, easily.

[crazy canuck]

Right you are, I was thinking deaths.  But even then I am off.  The death toll of the Russians is closer to that of the Central Powers on the Western Front.

Googling suggests that the Central Powers had about 1.5 million dead on the Western Front.

I keep making the same mistake - Russians have had about 1.2 million casualties, not deaths.

[Tonitrus]

You may be right if you factor in the relative disparity in overall troop numbers between the CP in WW1 vs Russia in Ukraine?

(or it may be worse)

[crazy canuck]

No, let's just chalk it up to me getting hopelessly mixed up.