Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[Maladict]

If anyone finds any reallt good reports of what's happening I encourage you to post it in The Back Room.

Unless you think some of our members are Russian sleeper agents.

I think you might be overestimating the importance of Languish.

And some of us don't have back room access you know 

[Legbiter]

If anyone finds any reallt good reports of what's happening I encourage you to post it in The Back Room.

Ukrainians are claiming they're advancing on both the north and south Bakhmut flanks.

Bieber and Dolik might not be enough...

[Crazy_Ivan80]

I suspect that we (and the Russians) will not know which attack is the main effort and which are the diversions for some time to come.

I wonder what kinds of breaching equipment has been sent to Ukraine.

I'm guessing toilets and washing machines to lure the Russians out of position

[PDH]

I see rumours of Leopards on the frontline has started to spread on Russian Telegram.

"WE ARE BEING ATTACKED BY TIGER TANKS!  MARK IV TIGER TANKS!!!"

[Sheilbh]

It does have vibes 

I think he did the same at the same event last year.

But it's tremendous and the right response to tankies/hard left.

[Legbiter]

Catastrophic detonation of the Nova Kakhovka dam. Huge sections of it gone, the reservoir is rapidly emptying into the Dnipro.

[Barrister]

Dam was in control of the Russians, so that makes them doing it more likely, but not for certain.

#1 it takes away the dam itself as a river crossing.

Will flood the lower Dnipro, making any crossing more difficult.

Eventually, will make a crossing of the upper Dnipro less difficult.

Presumably, hopefully, the Zaporozhia Nuclear Plant is fully offline and not in need of cooling water.

Finally - this takes out Crimea's water supply again...

[Josquius]

I can't help but read blowing this dam as a threat about the nuclear plant.
Doing it during the kharkiv liberation would have had an explicable military excuse. This is just shitty.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

I can't help but read blowing this dam as a threat about the nuclear plant.
Doing it during the kharkiv liberation would have had an explicable military excuse. This is just shitty.

Yeah.

It'll bite the Russians in the ass though (assuming it was them, and why wouldn't it) I think/hope.
Just because it will now be a double surprise if and when the uaf crosses the dniepr in cherson oblast.

[Maladict]

I can't help but read blowing this dam as a threat about the nuclear plant.
Doing it during the kharkiv liberation would have had an explicable military excuse. This is just shitty.

I'm sure they'll destroy the nuclear plant as well. Hopefully without creating a second Chernobyl.

[Grey Fox]

Current rumour is that the dam simply failed.

[Legbiter]

It'll bite the Russians in the ass though (assuming it was them, and why wouldn't it) I think/hope.
Just because it will now be a double surprise if and when the uaf crosses the dniepr in cherson oblast.

russki can shift some forces that were manning the defenses on the eastern bank of the Dnipro. That's it, that's the only strategic benefit muscovites gain from this. 

[Legbiter]

Current rumour is that the dam simply failed.

Locals report a deafening explosion in the early morning and windows up to 80 km breaking.

[PDH]

timeline seems to be first explosions, then the Russians claimed Ukrainian shelling hurt a small part of the dam.  The Russian Telegram channels all play this up.  There are even videos from guards saying they blew up the dam, and they should blow up others.

Then morning came, and the realization a huge part of the dam was gone, and the Kremlin blames Ukraine.  Unfortunately, the telegram channels don't all get this information, and still say the original thesis until they pivot 180 degrees and blame Ukraine.

I would think it was Russia, given how quickly they were ready with a (wrong) explanation initially.  They normally do not react at first, but try to cover up issues.

[Josquius]

Ukraine identified it was mined and Russia was plotting to blow it way back during the Kherson offensive. It makes no sense it would be Ukraine.