Austrian hotel has world's best wine list

[Malthus]

I would do the same thing I do with any wine list: color, region, then price.

So, a wine list is like a brothel?

[CountDeMoney]

"I'll have the blonde Czech, '95."
"An excellent choice, sir."

[Eddie Teach]

One thing I don't understand.  Why look for the most impressive wine selection at a restaurant?  If you want the longest wine list on earth, shouldn't you be checking out the wine supermarkets? 

Supermarkets are all about turnover. They're not going to keep a bottle of wine in stock for 20 years so they can make an extra hundred bucks off it.

[garbon]

Supermarkets in the North East are a very poor place to buy wine. If they have any, it is very hella* cheap/gross.

*I see you, Seedy.

[crazy canuck]

One thing I don't understand.  Why look for the most impressive wine selection at a restaurant?  If you want the longest wine list on earth, shouldn't you be checking out the wine supermarkets? 

Because going to a restaurant with a fine wine list is the only way to get fine wines which have been cellared properly unless you are have the resources to buy the wine and cellar it yourself or you can acquire it from someone other than a restaurant who has done it for you.  That later option is really only available if you travel to a vintner who keeps a portion of their in inventory cellared (rare but you can find them normally at the price of an expensive trip) or you have chosen your friends wisely.

Generally if you want a fine wine, going to a restaurant (absent a generous friend with a well stocked cellar) is the least expensive option.

[CountDeMoney]

Supermarkets in the North East are a very poor place to buy wine. If they have any, it is very hella* cheap/gross.

*I see you, Seedy.

Hella good boxxa wine.

[garbon]

Supermarkets in the North East are a very poor place to buy wine. If they have any, it is very hella* cheap/gross.

*I see you, Seedy.

Hella good boxxa wine.

That was so tragic when I was in the UK and one of the British students took us for a meal at his house. His mother cooked a lovely roast but accompanied it with some local Franzia equivalent.

Also, my closest supermarket, no box wine. Just some ultra-gross bottle wine. In a weak moment I bought a bottle once. 

[Ideologue]

One thing I don't understand.  Why look for the most impressive wine selection at a restaurant?  If you want the longest wine list on earth, shouldn't you be checking out the wine supermarkets? 

Because going to a restaurant with a fine wine list is the only way to get fine wines which have been cellared properly unless you are have the resources to buy the wine and cellar it yourself or you can acquire it from someone other than a restaurant who has done it for you.  That later option is really only available if you travel to a vintner who keeps a portion of their in inventory cellared (rare but you can find them normally at the price of an expensive trip) or you have chosen your friends wisely.

Generally if you want a fine wine, going to a restaurant (absent a generous friend with a well stocked cellar) is the least expensive option.

If you want a vision of the upper middle-class, imagine Crazy Canuck badgering acquaintances for the booze they keep in their basement, he hopes forever.

[The Larch]

Gruner is very "in" over here right now, along with Jura & Galician whites.

Galician? Damn, I could have made a killing in my trip by bringing a few bottles along...

[Malthus]

One thing I don't understand.  Why look for the most impressive wine selection at a restaurant?  If you want the longest wine list on earth, shouldn't you be checking out the wine supermarkets? 

Because going to a restaurant with a fine wine list is the only way to get fine wines which have been cellared properly unless you are have the resources to buy the wine and cellar it yourself or you can acquire it from someone other than a restaurant who has done it for you.  That later option is really only available if you travel to a vintner who keeps a portion of their in inventory cellared (rare but you can find them normally at the price of an expensive trip) or you have chosen your friends wisely.

Generally if you want a fine wine, going to a restaurant (absent a generous friend with a well stocked cellar) is the least expensive option.

If you want a vision of the upper middle-class, imagine Crazy Canuck badgering acquaintances for the booze they keep in their basement, he hopes forever.

See, this attitude is why you can't be upper middle class - you don't "badger" your acquaintences for their booze, you just subtley challenge them to display their superior taste. 

[crazy canuck]

One thing I don't understand.  Why look for the most impressive wine selection at a restaurant?  If you want the longest wine list on earth, shouldn't you be checking out the wine supermarkets? 

Because going to a restaurant with a fine wine list is the only way to get fine wines which have been cellared properly unless you are have the resources to buy the wine and cellar it yourself or you can acquire it from someone other than a restaurant who has done it for you.  That later option is really only available if you travel to a vintner who keeps a portion of their in inventory cellared (rare but you can find them normally at the price of an expensive trip) or you have chosen your friends wisely.

Generally if you want a fine wine, going to a restaurant (absent a generous friend with a well stocked cellar) is the least expensive option.

If you want a vision of the upper middle-class, imagine Crazy Canuck badgering acquaintances for the booze they keep in their basement, he hopes forever.

See, this attitude is why you can't be upper middle class - you don't "badger" your acquaintences for their booze, you just subtley challenge them to display their superior taste. 

Well, that and he thinks a basement is the same as a wine cellar.

[Monoriu]

My wife has booked 5-6 michelin-starred restaurants in Bavaria and Alsace in September.  Surprisingly there are more such restaurants in Germany than France.  I think we'll once again get the funny reactions from the waiters when we ask for tap water 

[alfred russel]

"I'll have the blonde Czech, '95."
"An excellent choice, sir."

Then they make you wear a rubber tube over your tongue, and you wonder what the point of the whole thing is.

[Norgy]

My wife has booked 5-6 michelin-starred restaurants in Bavaria and Alsace in September.  Surprisingly there are more such restaurants in Germany than France.  I think we'll once again get the funny reactions from the waiters when we ask for tap water 

Trust me, the reaction when you go to McDonalds' later to actually fill up after eating calf of hare in clover and a single mussel dipped in the groin sweat of town simpleton, braised in wine will be worth those 600 Euros.

[Monoriu]

My wife has booked 5-6 michelin-starred restaurants in Bavaria and Alsace in September.  Surprisingly there are more such restaurants in Germany than France.  I think we'll once again get the funny reactions from the waiters when we ask for tap water 

Trust me, the reaction when you go to McDonalds' later to actually fill up after eating calf of hare in clover and a single mussel dipped in the groin sweat of town simpleton, braised in wine will be worth those 600 Euros.

The vast majority of the michelin restaurants that we tried in France tend to serve portions that are on the high side.  Our real problem when we went to France 2 years ago was that there was absolutely no stomach space for anything we saw on the road.  If we had lunch in such a restaurant, a salad for dinner would be enough.  I know what you are talking about though, as many French restaurants in Hong Kong do serve portions that are unreasonably small, and their excuse is that "French cuisine is like that".  That lie is for people who have never actually been to France.  The same applies to Japan.  Most of the michelin restaurants there serve large portions. 

The price varies from place to place, but there is no way a single meal will cost E$600 if we don't order drinks.  E$100-200 for two is more typical.  Of course, if you plan on getting wine, the sky is the limit.