This is what happened when I drove my Mercedes to pick up food stamps

Started by Baron von Schtinkenbutt, July 09, 2014, 11:04:29 AM

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garbon

Quote from: Scipio on July 09, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2014, 09:32:56 PM
One thing I don't understand.  So a perfect financial storm happened to her.  She became pregnant with twins, they bought a house, then the housing market crashed, her husband became unemployed.

Maybe I missed it, but what happened to her job?  She quit to become a stay home mother?
Nah, she kept her shitty job. But it was, you know, shitty.

What's weird was that until that 25k part, she had said that she was constantly getting promoted and was "succeeding" with regards to her career. She grew up in an white affluent neighborhood and considered that succeeding?  That's why I feel like something is missing.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Monoriu

Quote from: garbon on July 09, 2014, 09:39:32 PM


What's weird was that until that 25k part, she had said that she was constantly getting promoted and was "succeeding" with regards to her career. She grew up in an white affluent neighborhood and considered that succeeding?  That's why I feel like something is missing.

My thoughts as well.  My guess is that she switched to a job with fewer hours and lower pay when she became pregnant.  Then everything else happened. 

Admiral Yi

It's not totally clear what happens to her job.  25K for a local TV producer in Boston sounds impossibly low.

Monoriu

The main thing I get from this story is that we all need much larger financial buffers than what we probably realise. 

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 09:08:21 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 09, 2014, 09:03:35 PM
Do you believe it's ever fair to give away "free money"?

I've already answered this; several times in fact.  You didn't pay attention those times and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't this time either.

There are 63 threads where the phrase "free money" shows up.  I haven't found the ones you are talking about.  I did ask you in 2012 what "Free money" is, but you didn't answer it.  However, something I did find was that I was just as hilarious and incisive in 2012 as I am now, which is not bad.  To be consistently that clever and funny over a period of years is not something to laugh at.  Wait, maybe it is. :huh:

Also I found Hans old quote on the social contract

QuoteFuck the social contract, I didn't sign on to having millions of worthless pieces of shit demanding handouts while contributing no effort themselves.  Why should those who work hard, save money for the future, and take responsibility for themselves be required to bail out all the worthless layabouts who blow all their money and then some ob big-screen TVs and XBOX 360's and then want a handout because working would distract from their play time.

Fuck em all.  There is nothing more antisocial than the "social contract", which rewards bad behavior and punishes responsibility.  This is why the poor shouldn't be allowed to vote: they end up voting to rob the public until eventually society collapses under their irresponsibility.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

To be fair, Hans is a fascist scum.  Or whatever word you should use instead of fascist to avoid being accused of throwing out empty inflammatory labels.

Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on July 10, 2014, 12:12:39 AM
To be fair, Hans is a fascist scum.  Or whatever word you should use instead of fascist to avoid being accused of throwing out empty inflammatory labels.

I think his opinions are well represented in the conservative movement though the politicians tend to be a bit more diplomatic.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 09:45:21 PM
It's not totally clear what happens to her job.  25K for a local TV producer in Boston sounds impossibly low.
Sounds believable to me for a local TV producer in London. Lots of people want to work in media. They get shitty deals because of it, in the hope that one day they'll break out.
Let's bomb Russia!

garbon

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 10, 2014, 11:52:33 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 09:45:21 PM
It's not totally clear what happens to her job.  25K for a local TV producer in Boston sounds impossibly low.
Sounds believable to me for a local TV producer in London. Lots of people want to work in media. They get shitty deals because of it, in the hope that one day they'll break out.

Doesn't sound like "succeeding" though.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

Quote from: DGuller on July 10, 2014, 12:12:39 AM
To be fair, Hans is a fascist scum.  Or whatever word you should use instead of fascist to avoid being accused of throwing out empty inflammatory labels.

Do me next!!  What am I??
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Quote from: garbon on July 10, 2014, 11:53:50 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 10, 2014, 11:52:33 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 09:45:21 PM
It's not totally clear what happens to her job.  25K for a local TV producer in Boston sounds impossibly low.
Sounds believable to me for a local TV producer in London. Lots of people want to work in media. They get shitty deals because of it, in the hope that one day they'll break out.

Doesn't sound like "succeeding" though.

Reminds me of the joke about the man with the carnival whose job it was to clean up the smelly bucketloads of elephant dung. A passerby, who saw him hip-deep in the excrement, asked, "My good man, how can you put up with such demeaning conditions? Haven't you ever thought about another line of work?" To which the carnival worker replied, "What—and give up show business?"
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Sheilbh

Quote from: garbon on July 10, 2014, 11:53:50 AM
Doesn't sound like "succeeding" though.
You're succeeding in getting paying work in that industry and building a reputation. That is success necessary to get the ultimate success: a secure well-paid media job.

I know people who are on the constant life-rigmarole of decent paid contract jobs at the BBC (the BBC almost never hire people permanently because they don't want new people in the pension scheme, at most you get 2 years at a time) to incredibly low-paid deals at independent production companies selling their wares to the odd internet start-up. They're succeeding in that they're getting paid work, which thousands of interns who want in don't, and they're building a profile. But it seems to take a while to be financially successful.
Let's bomb Russia!

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: DGuller on July 10, 2014, 12:12:39 AM
To be fair, Hans is a fascist scum.  Or whatever word you should use instead of fascist to avoid being accused of throwing out empty inflammatory labels.

Do me next!!  What am I??

You're alright in my book. :)
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 10, 2014, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 10, 2014, 11:53:50 AM
Doesn't sound like "succeeding" though.
You're succeeding in getting paying work in that industry and building a reputation. That is success necessary to get the ultimate success: a secure well-paid media job.

I know people who are on the constant life-rigmarole of decent paid contract jobs at the BBC (the BBC almost never hire people permanently because they don't want new people in the pension scheme, at most you get 2 years at a time) to incredibly low-paid deals at independent production companies selling their wares to the odd internet start-up. They're succeeding in that they're getting paid work, which thousands of interns who want in don't, and they're building a profile. But it seems to take a while to be financially successful.

Same here.  Media jobs are not what they used to be as the industry can no longer afford the pay scales of yesteryear.  Not with advertising dollars drying up and going to other platforms.  Further, the CBC, our state broadcaster, the place to be for safe secure media employment, is shedding thousands of jobs and will be a shell of its former self within the next five years.

Grey Fox

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 10, 2014, 12:05:15 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 10, 2014, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 10, 2014, 11:53:50 AM
Doesn't sound like "succeeding" though.
You're succeeding in getting paying work in that industry and building a reputation. That is success necessary to get the ultimate success: a secure well-paid media job.

I know people who are on the constant life-rigmarole of decent paid contract jobs at the BBC (the BBC almost never hire people permanently because they don't want new people in the pension scheme, at most you get 2 years at a time) to incredibly low-paid deals at independent production companies selling their wares to the odd internet start-up. They're succeeding in that they're getting paid work, which thousands of interns who want in don't, and they're building a profile. But it seems to take a while to be financially successful.

Same here.  Media jobs are not what they used to be as the industry can no longer afford the pay scales of yesteryear.  Not with advertising dollars drying up and going to other platforms.  Further, the CBC, our state broadcaster, the place to be for safe secure media employment, is shedding thousands of jobs and will be a shell of its former self within the next five years.

Unless Canadians do the right thing & elect a Liberal government in 2015.
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