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House Leader Eric Cantor Loses Primary

Started by jimmy olsen, June 11, 2014, 01:47:15 AM

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jimmy olsen

This was mentioned in the OTT, but it needs to be discussed.

If the GOP base is going to require candidates to be more conservative than Cantor than whoever they back in the presidential primaries is going to lose to the establishment candidate once again or get creamed in the national election.

EDIT: Also, there's apparently a "sore loser" law in Virginia that prevents him from running in the general election as an independent. How is that constitutional?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/06/10/320797014/eric-cantor-defeated-in-republican-primary
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Eric Cantor Defeated By Tea Party Candidate In Virginia Primary

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June 10, 2014 8:09 PM ET

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor has lost his Republican primary in Virginia's 7th Congressional District to Tea Party challenger David Brat — a stunning upset that will rewrite the leadership of the chamber's GOP leadership.

Brat, an economics professor at Randolph-Macon College, was leading Cantor by .

"I know there's a lot of long faces here tonight, and it's disappointing, sure," Cantor said, speaking to supporters. "I believe in this country; I believe there's opportunity around the next corner for all of us."

NPR's Ron Elving calls the defeat of Cantor, who was widely expected to eventually replace House Speaker John Boehner, "Truly stunning and all but unprecedented for a speaker-in-waiting."

says that Brat tapped into "strong anti-incumbent fever that has taken over Cantor's Richmond-area district."

Although Cantor is a conservative and has been close to the Tea Party, "in the past two years they've been angered by his shift to support for some kind of immigration reform. Brat made that an issue, saying Cantor was no longer a real conservative," NPR's Don Gonyea says.

Even so, "Going into the elections, most Republicans had been watching for how broad Mr. Cantor's victory would be, with almost no one predicting that he would lose,"

, in an article earlier Tuesday, said Cantor was expected to prevail but acknowledged that Brat had "exposed discontent with Cantor in the solidly Republican, suburban Richmond 7th Congressional District by attacking the lawmaker on his votes to raise the debt ceiling and end the government shutdown, as well as his support for some immigration reforms."

Reuters says Cantor, the No. 2 in the House, heavily outspent his opponent, who managed to raise just over $200,000 for his campaign, according to his most recent campaign finance reports.

The Associated Press says:

    "[Cantor's] loss to Dave Brat, a political novice with little money, marks a huge victory for the Tea Party movement, which supported Cantor just a few years ago.

    "Brat had been a thorn in Cantor's side on the campaign. ... Last month, a feisty crowd of Brat supporters booed Cantor in front of his family at a local party convention."

calls Cantor's defeat "perhaps the most significant jolt to the Republican establishment since the emergence of the Tea Party in 2009":

    "While conservative activists have ousted veteran Republicans like Sens. Bob Bennett (Utah) and Richard Lugar (Ind.), a sitting majority leader has never been defeated in a primary election.

    "As recently as Friday, Cantor and his team in Virginia projected confidence.

    " 'I'm just not worried,' Cantor's Richmond-based political adviser, Ray Allen, told The Hill. Cantor's own polling showed him with a comfortable lead.

    "Brat told The Hill he was 'peaking at exactly the right time.' "

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Sheilbh

Good. He was the worst :bleeding:

And the establishment still needs a good purge.

What's interesting is everyone knew this was a safe win. Except for Cantor who spent millions and got beat by a guy who spent a little over $100k.

I'd also love to see the conflicted, conflicting emotions Boehner must be going through. I'd guess it involved crying.

First Cochran, now Cantor. I think we can officially retire all those 'Death of the Tea Party' pieces from a few weeks ago.
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It pleases me because a reinvigorated Tea Party means I'm going to get paid $100 in 2020.  Well, $95, once you factor in crippling deflation.
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Sheilbh

Also how bad is GOP internal polling? Romney thought he was winning, Cantor thought he had a double digit lead. This should worry them.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Sheilbh on June 11, 2014, 04:42:46 AM
Also how bad is GOP internal polling? Romney thought he was winning, Cantor thought he had a double digit lead. This should worry them.
The first is worrying, the second not so much. In a congressional primary so much depends on who shows up it's almost impossible for even good polling companies to successfully predict an upset.
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Quote from: Sheilbh on June 11, 2014, 04:42:46 AM
Also how bad is GOP internal polling? Romney thought he was winning, Cantor thought he had a double digit lead. This should worry them.

Effective polling is just symptomatic of liberal bias.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2014, 04:45:30 AMThe first is worrying, the second not so much. In a congressional primary so much depends on who shows up it's almost impossible for even good polling companies to successfully predict an upset.
Of course it depends on who shows up, but then all elections do and polling is useful in getting that information. I think a party leadership is in trouble if it can't effective poll a - the country, or b - their own supporters.

It wasn't mildly wrong, Cantor thought he had a 30% lead. Being that out of touch with his own district is possibly part of the reason he lost.
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Personally, I think this reflects anti-incumbantism rather than Tea-Partyism, for the most part.  Cantor is closely identified with the most ineffective House in a generation, and this "leadership" probably cost him the race.  OTOH, that is the most republican district in the state (they sent George Allen to Congress), so maybe the TP is that strong there.
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Quote from: Sheilbh on June 11, 2014, 02:03:41 AM
Good. He was the worst :bleeding:

And the establishment still needs a good purge.

What's interesting is everyone knew this was a safe win. Except for Cantor who spent millions and got beat by a guy who spent a little over $100k.

I'd also love to see the conflicted, conflicting emotions Boehner must be going through. I'd guess it involved crying.

First Cochran, now Cantor. I think we can officially retire all those 'Death of the Tea Party' pieces from a few weeks ago.

Agreed all around. Cantor hugely outspent his opponent but apparently was creamed in debates and his ideas weren't working with the VA voters who want change in the status quo of how government is being run.

A big loss to Boehner as Cantor was his right hand man, or one of them, and likely someone who could have moved into the Speaker position if/when Boehner retired.

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Quote from: Sheilbh on June 11, 2014, 04:51:55 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2014, 04:45:30 AMThe first is worrying, the second not so much. In a congressional primary so much depends on who shows up it's almost impossible for even good polling companies to successfully predict an upset.
Of course it depends on who shows up, but then all elections do and polling is useful in getting that information. I think a party leadership is in trouble if it can't effective poll a - the country, or b - their own supporters.

It wasn't mildly wrong, Cantor thought he had a 30% lead. Being that out of touch with his own district is possibly part of the reason he lost.

I heard that the day before the election Cantor was in DC at a fundraiser rather than back in his district doing last-minute campaigning.
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I like the stat where his campaign spent more on steak than Brat raised in total.

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Bitching about Cantor being too "establishment" is hilarious.  That's how shit gets done for your Party, like getting Batshit Bachmann onto the House Intelligence Committee, or stocking the Science and Technology Committee with climate change-deniers, Jesus dinosaur riders and McRapist fans. But obstructing the President isn't enough, we don't want our people to even talk to him.

Just proves the most rabid of the Teabaggers dont want to do shit with government, except destroy it. 

Valmy

Quote from: Ed Anger on June 11, 2014, 08:58:38 AM
I like the stat where his campaign spent more on steak than Brat raised in total.

Cantor was Well Done.

:lol:

Good Riddance I say.
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