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Napoleon and memory

Started by Sheilbh, May 20, 2014, 09:20:31 PM

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Valmy

I will take that as a compliment  :hug:
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Quote from: Valmy on May 26, 2014, 09:09:30 PM
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Napoleon was one of history's great reactionaries.

Opportunists?  Sure.  Reactionary?  Erm...don't see that.

:huh: Recreating hereditary monarchy and nobility after one of the most celebrated republican revolts in history?

It was all vanity, not to restore the notion of Monarchy and Nobility.  Napoleon actually ruined that spectacularly by making it so vulgar.

It was rather vulgar to begin with.
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Quote from: Valmy on May 26, 2014, 09:09:30 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 26, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 26, 2014, 04:20:03 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 26, 2014, 04:18:58 PM
Napoleon was one of history's great reactionaries.

Opportunists?  Sure.  Reactionary?  Erm...don't see that.

:huh: Recreating hereditary monarchy and nobility after one of the most celebrated republican revolts in history?

It was all vanity, not to restore the notion of Monarchy and Nobility.  Napoleon actually ruined that spectacularly by making it so vulgar.

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grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on May 26, 2014, 09:09:30 PM
It was all vanity, not to restore the notion of Monarchy and Nobility.  Napoleon actually ruined that spectacularly by making it so vulgar. 

:lol:  Okay.  This is so wrong that I don't even want to start on just how many ways in which it is wrong.  I'll just note that "vulgar" titles like Duke D'Auerstat and Prince de la Moskowa were won at the risk of the winners' lives.

Maybe a little research on your part can reveal to you the purpose of Napoleon's "aristocracy of merit."  If it was vulgar, then so is pretty much all of modern western society.
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