Did the US make the correct decision to enter the First World War?

[Siege]

At this point, what difference does it make?

[garbon]

Why does it have to be either or?

I'm sure Mr. Wilson would've been open to your alternatives at the time, whatever they may have been.

Likely not. I think my family was in MS

[garbon]

At this point, what difference does it make?

All the difference in the world, my good boy.

[Razgovory]

At this point, what difference does it make?

If we let the Euros bleed a bit more, European Imperialism might have collapsed 20 years early.  Imagine an Israel independent in 1929.

[Agelastus]

At this point, what difference does it make?

If we let the Euros bleed a bit more, European Imperialism might have collapsed 20 years early.  Imagine an Israel independent in 1929.

I'm having a bit of difficulty imagining that given the demographic situation in Palestine at the time.

[jimmy olsen]

If they'd won and enacted their plans - especially after the first year - Germany definitely would've been a danger too the US.

Oh?

They were very, very interested in the Caribbean and Latin America, in your typical German military expansionist kinda way.  It's not news.

So what? Our navy was right next door and unlike the Soviets, the Germans wouldn't be peddling an ideology that would inspire the locals to join their side voluntarily.

[CountDeMoney]

So what? Our navy was right next door and unlike the Soviets, the Germans wouldn't be peddling an ideology that would inspire the locals to join their side voluntarily.

Fuck you, so what.  Go get gunned down by Katmai or something. 

[Sheilbh]

They were very, very interested in the Caribbean and Latin America, in your typical German military expansionist kinda way.  It's not news.

And they basically wanted the annexation or control of the entire North Sea coast, considerable British colonies in Southern Africa and the dismantling of the Royal Navy.

Given the comparatively piffling rise of Japan in the Pacific, it's tough to see how that shift wouldn't represent a danger for the US in the Atlantic.

[Agelastus]

If they'd won and enacted their plans - especially after the first year - Germany definitely would've been a danger too the US.

Oh?

They were very, very interested in the Caribbean and Latin America, in your typical German military expansionist kinda way.  It's not news.

So what? Our navy was right next door and unlike the Soviets, the Germans wouldn't be peddling an ideology that would inspire the locals to join their side voluntarily.

You really think that ideology is the sole cause of resentment towards the USA in Latin America? Particularly in the first half of the twentieth century in the aftermath of the USA's aggressive policy in the Carribean of the first two decades of the Century?

[grumbler]

I presume that those telling us so assuredly what the Germans wanted out of WW1 are relying on Fischer?  I'd point out that his isn't the only opinion on the topic.  I think he egged his beer, myself.

Interestingly, the Germans were interested in a negotiated settlement of the war, even when Germany seemed to be winning, while the British and French were not (Lloyd George was especially contemptuous of the idea of stopping the butchery).  The conditions the Germans were to present had the Allies agreed to talks in Dec 1916 are not entirely clear (lots of secondary-source guessing but no primary sources), but the fact that the Germans were willing to talk peace after the fall of Romania is interesting.

[jimmy olsen]

If they'd won and enacted their plans - especially after the first year - Germany definitely would've been a danger too the US.

Oh?

They were very, very interested in the Caribbean and Latin America, in your typical German military expansionist kinda way.  It's not news.

So what? Our navy was right next door and unlike the Soviets, the Germans wouldn't be peddling an ideology that would inspire the locals to join their side voluntarily.

You really think that ideology is the sole cause of resentment towards the USA in Latin America? Particularly in the first half of the twentieth century in the aftermath of the USA's aggressive policy in the Carribean of the first two decades of the Century?

Sure, the elites would definitely try to get German support to counter the US. However there aren't going to be popular revolutions overthrowing the government and setting up Hohenzollern monarchies. 

[Agelastus]

If they'd won and enacted their plans - especially after the first year - Germany definitely would've been a danger too the US.

Oh?

They were very, very interested in the Caribbean and Latin America, in your typical German military expansionist kinda way.  It's not news.

So what? Our navy was right next door and unlike the Soviets, the Germans wouldn't be peddling an ideology that would inspire the locals to join their side voluntarily.

You really think that ideology is the sole cause of resentment towards the USA in Latin America? Particularly in the first half of the twentieth century in the aftermath of the USA's aggressive policy in the Carribean of the first two decades of the Century?

Sure, the elites would definitely try to get German support to counter the US. However there aren't going to be popular revolutions overthrowing the government and setting up Hohenzollern monarchies.

And in a quest for influence in Latin America how is this going to make a material difference?

[Siege]

If they'd won and enacted their plans - especially after the first year - Germany definitely would've been a danger too the US.

Oh?

They were very, very interested in the Caribbean and Latin America, in your typical German military expansionist kinda way.  It's not news.

So what? Our navy was right next door and unlike the Soviets, the Germans wouldn't be peddling an ideology that would inspire the locals to join their side voluntarily.

You really think that ideology is the sole cause of resentment towards the USA in Latin America? Particularly in the first half of the twentieth century in the aftermath of the USA's aggressive policy in the Carribean of the first two decades of the Century?

Yes. The elites in the Caribbean supported and in many cases called for US intervention.

[jimmy olsen]

And in a quest for influence in Latin America how is this going to make a material difference?

Fighting over the supports of elites is a lot easier than fighting for the support of the people.

[Agelastus]

And in a quest for influence in Latin America how is this going to make a material difference?

Fighting over the supports of elites is a lot easier than fighting for the support of the people.

And this will cause a material difference how?

Latin America: Communism versus USA = Coups.
Latin America: Kaiserreich versus USA = Coups.