News from Iran? Good? Bad? Who knows?

[KRonn]

Iran president defies supreme leader over deputy
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI and LEE KEATH, Associated Press

TEHRAN, Iran – President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad showed rare defiance of his strongest backer, Iran's supreme leader, by insisting on his choice for vice president Wednesday despite vehement opposition from hard-liners that has opened a deep rift in the conservative leadership.
Dareini reported from Tehran; Keath from Cairo, Egypt.

Interesting...
The main thing keeping Ahmajthingy where he is is that the leader was fine with his rigging the election/helped do it/did it himself (what is the most common theory now anyway?). That he would rock the boat like this...

Maybe some power plays/brokering by President Ahmadinejad, vs the Religous leaders. I thought there was some of that kind of strife going on anyway.

[Tonitrus]

 :nelson

Iran loses its only AWACS as Ahmadinejad threatens the world

September 23, 2009, 12:20 PM (GMT+02:00)
Iran's AWACS destroyed in parade collision


Up above a big military parade in Tehran on Tuesday, Sept. 22, as Iranian president declared Iran's armed forces would "chop off the hands" of any power daring to attack his country, two air force jets collided in mid-air. One was Iran's only airborne warning and control system (AWACS) for coordinating long-distance aerial operations, DEBKAfile's military and Iranian sources disclose.

The proud military parade, which included a march-past, a line of Shehab-3 missiles and an air force fly-past, was planned to give Ahmadinejad a dazzling send-off for New York and add steel to his UN Assembly speech Wednesday.

Dubbed "Simorgh" (a flying creature of Iranian fable which performs wonders in mid-flight), the AWACS' appearance, escorted by fighter jets, was to have been the climax for the Iranian Air force's fly-past over the parade. Instead, it collided with one of escorting planes, a US-made F-5E, and both crashed to the ground in flames. All seven crewmen were killed.

Eye witnesses reported that the flaming planes landed on the mausoleum burial site of the Islamic revolution's founder Ruhollah Khomeini, a national shrine. According to Western observers, no distress signals came from either cockpit indicating that the collision and explosions were sudden and fast.

DEBKAfile's military sources say the disaster was a serious blow to the Iranian Air Force not long after its first and only AWACS went into service in April 2008. It was a renovated version of the Russian Ilyushin 76, part of Saddam Hussein's air force before it was transferred to Iran in 1991 during the first Gulf War.

Tehran hired Russian technicians to carry out renovations and install up-to-date radar. At the launching ceremony of the upgraded AWACS, Air Force commander Brig. Gen. Ahmad Miqani boasted its new radar systems were made in Iran and able to spot any airplane or missile at a distance of 1,000 kilometers from Iran's borders.

The loss of this airborne control system has left Iran's air force and air and missile defenses without "electronic eyes" for surveillance of the skies around its borders.

[Razgovory]

This is indeed a sign from God.

[Viking]

This is indeed a sign from God.

Yeah, their air defense sucks right now, Israel is happy.

[KRonn]

Russia has been working with Iran on giving them new and I believe quite advanced air defense systems. That's turning out to be a worry for Israel, as it might prevent them from making an air strike, or could make it a lot more difficult, if they feel the need to do so. Losing that aircraft is probably not nearly as big an issue.

[Ed Anger]

Eye witnesses reported that the flaming planes landed on the mausoleum burial site of the Islamic revolution's founder Ruhollah Khomeini, a national shrine.

The awesome gets better.

[Josquius]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW1DltEt5z4

[KRonn]

Another nuclear facility site found, or some such? Causing even larger concern among nations that care. "Drawing a line in the sand", saying "stop it" even louder now!

Even Russia and China seem annoyed now.   

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33016209/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

Obama demands Iran open plant to inspectors
Iranian president says Obama will regret statements over secret facility

[The Minsky Moment]

This is indeed a sign from God.

No there is a perfectly logical, secular explanation.

Tehran hired Russian technicians to carry out renovations and install up-to-date radar.

[Caliga]

Eye witnesses reported that the flaming planes landed on the mausoleum burial site of the Islamic revolution's founder Ruhollah Khomeini, a national shrine.

The awesome gets better.

Those superstitious nuts will of course find some deep meaning in this completely random event.

[Valmy]

No there is a perfectly logical, secular explanation.

Tehran hired Russian technicians to carry out renovations and install up-to-date radar.

One of the world's classic blunders.

[citizen k]

Iran Police, Protesters Clash At U.S. Embassy Rally:



http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120098222

Student stuns Iran by criticizing supreme leader
By SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI, Associated Press

BEIRUT – An unassuming college math student has become an unlikely hero to many in Iran for daring to criticize the country's most powerful man to his face.

Mahmoud Vahidnia has received an outpouring of support from government opponents for the challenge — unprecedented in a country where insulting supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is a crime punishable by prison.

Perhaps most surprising, the young math whiz has so far suffered no repercussions from the confrontation at a question-and-answer session between Khamenei and students at Tehran's Sharif Technical University.

In fact, Iran's clerical leadership appears to be touting the incident as a sign of its tolerance — so much so that some Iranians at first believed the 20-minute exchange was staged by the government, though opposition commentators are now convinced Vahidnia was the real thing.

Details of the encounter were reported on the state news agency IRNA and in a pro-government newspaper, Keyhan, which gave its account with a headline reading, "The revolutionary leader's fatherly response to critical youth." Even Khamenei's official Web site mentioned the incident.

Still some of those in attendance at the Oct. 28 forum say Khamenei appeared taken aback by the questioning and left the meeting early, according to commentary posted on pro-reform Web sites.

The session began with a speech in which Khamenei told the students the "biggest crime" was to question the results of the June 12 presidential election that returned hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to power. Khamenei himself declared Ahmadinejad the victor despite opposition claims of widespread fraud.

After the speech, Vahidnia raised his hand, then for 20 minutes he criticized the Iranian leader over the fierce crackdown on postelection protests, in which the opposition says 69 people were killed and thousands were arrested.

In brief excerpts broadcast on state TV, the thin, bespectacled Vahidnia was shown standing behind a podium, gesturing at times for emphasis.

"I don't know why in this country it's not allowed to make any kind of criticism of you," said the student, wearing a long-sleeved blue polo shirt and appearing calm.

"In the past three to five years that I have been reading newspapers, I have seen no criticism of you, not even by the Assembly of Experts, whose duty is to criticize and supervise the performance of the leader," he said, referring to the clerical body that chooses the country's supreme leader.

Khamenei countered, "We welcome criticism. We never said not to criticize us. ... There's plenty of criticism that I receive," according to accounts in state media and on opposition Web sites.

The boldness of Vahidnia's comments underlines how Iran's postelection turmoil has undermined the once rock-solid taboo against challenging the supreme leader. During demonstrations, young protesters have frequently chanted "Death to the dictator" — referring to Khamenei — and even "Khamenei is a murderer." Several high-ranking pro-opposition clerics have also been openly critical.

The supreme leader stands at the top of the hierarchy of Iran's clerical rulers, and his word is supposed to be final on political issues. Scores of Iranian writers, bloggers and academics have been jailed for writing what authorities have deemed as insults to Khamenei.

But so far Vahidnia has been spared. The president of Sharif University even defended the student, saying he spoke within the law.

The incident has propelled the soft-spoken man in his early 20s to national prominence and inspired widespread support on the Web.

The night of the encounter, fellow students gathered, shouting, "God is great" and "death to the dictator" in support of their colleague, according to video footage posted on pro-reform Web sites.

"Vahidnia showed a new atmosphere which is the true characteristic of the Iranian people," Ataollah Mohajerani, a former pro-reform Cabinet minister, wrote on his Web site. "If from now on in gatherings in the presence of the supreme leader one finds the courage to get up and speak in defense of justice and right, the climate of tyranny will suffocate."

Speaking to The Associated Press, Mohajerani dismissed the idea that Vahidnia could have been planted by authorities, but said the state was using the incident to try to paint itself in a better light.

"Khamenei wants to show that the leader is totally prepared to face criticism," Mohajerani said in a telephone interview from London.

During the face-to-face exchange, Vahidnia also raised allegations of abuse of imprisoned opposition protesters.

"You, who have the role of a father, when you deal with your opponents in such a manner, your subordinates will likely behave similarly, as we have seen in the prisons," he told Khamenei, referring to the reports of torture and rape.

He also criticized state-run Iranian television and radio for their depiction of the protests as the work of troublemakers and pawns of Iran's foreign enemies. "Do you think radio and television have portrayed the recent events accurately or broadcast a caricature-type image of them?" he asked.

The supreme leader countered that he had his own criticisms of state media, including their failure to give enough coverage to the government's "positive achievements."

"Don't assume that because I appoint the head of state television, they bring all their programs to me for approval," the Iranian leader said, adding that state broadcasts of the situation in the country were "incomplete."

Vahidnia, a gold medalist at the country's National Math Olympics two years ago, told the pro-opposition Alef Web site that officials at first barred him from speaking, but Khamenei apparently allowed him to go ahead. He said he was interrupted several times by the event's moderator who insisted they were out of time. Vahidnia could not be reached for further comment.

The evening of the encounter, state television aired excerpts of Khamenei's speech but did not show Vahidnia or mention the exchange. Days later, however, it ran a report denying rumors he had been arrested and showed an image of him at the gathering.

In Italy, at least two parliament members have issued calls for their government to offer Vahidnia asylum if necessary.

Lawmaker Benedetto Della Vedova called the student a symbol of the "demands for change and modernity" in Iran. Another parliament deputy, Angelo Bonelli, praised Vahidnia's "courage" and urged political leaders to stand by his "fight for rights and democracy."

Vahidnia's comments were so brazen and unprecedented that many Iranians thought it was staged by the government.

"I thought it was a hoax, to show us that we have freedom here," said one young Iranian woman who has participated in the opposition demonstrations. She asked not to be identified for fear of getting into trouble with authorities.

"But now that it looks like it was real, I think it's a huge deal," she said. "Never before has anyone had the courage to do such a thing."

[Razgovory]

Oh man, Iran's biggest nerd is the warpath

[Viking]

Oh man, Iran's biggest nerd is the warpath

The last time the Nerds went on the warpath Hiroshima and Nagasaki got flattened.

Oppenheimer FTW!

[Syt]

By SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI

All just a fairy tale.