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China may build an undersea train to America

Started by jimmy olsen, May 11, 2014, 09:08:20 AM

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Ideologue

QuoteThe plot involves rogue elements of the communist Chinese army who use fantastic burrowing machines in an effort to place atomic bombs under major U.S. cities. The U.S. Navy sends troops underground to combat them. The film has been described as "deliriously paranoid"

SOLD.
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derspiess

Quote from: Ideologue on May 12, 2014, 09:31:35 AM
QuoteThe plot involves rogue elements of the communist Chinese army who use fantastic burrowing machines in an effort to place atomic bombs under major U.S. cities. The U.S. Navy sends troops underground to combat them. The film has been described as "deliriously paranoid"

SOLD.

Brilliant film, from the twilight if the Era of Casting White People in Chinese Roles.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Ed Anger

Quote from: derspiess on May 12, 2014, 09:42:46 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 12, 2014, 09:31:35 AM
QuoteThe plot involves rogue elements of the communist Chinese army who use fantastic burrowing machines in an effort to place atomic bombs under major U.S. cities. The U.S. Navy sends troops underground to combat them. The film has been described as "deliriously paranoid"

SOLD.

Brilliant film, from the twilight if the Era of Casting White People in Chinese Roles.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/2291xk/the-jeselnik-offensive-which-kind-of-asian-is-this-

NSFW
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Razgovory

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 12, 2014, 02:26:40 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 11, 2014, 11:09:42 PM
A tunnel from nowhere to nowhere.  I may be wrong here, but I was under the impression that the English Channel Tunnel has been an economic failure.

In the beginning yes, since Maggie would not allow any public monies to fund it so they had to rely too much on banks and stock markets. Not anymore, following restructuring with small shareholders getting their savings wiped out.
Some over optimistic forecasting and rising security issues did not help as well.

Did it ever actually break even?  Has the money gained actually equaled the money spent both private and public?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017


Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Razgovory on May 12, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 12, 2014, 02:26:40 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 11, 2014, 11:09:42 PM
A tunnel from nowhere to nowhere.  I may be wrong here, but I was under the impression that the English Channel Tunnel has been an economic failure.

In the beginning yes, since Maggie would not allow any public monies to fund it so they had to rely too much on banks and stock markets. Not anymore, following restructuring with small shareholders getting their savings wiped out.
Some over optimistic forecasting and rising security issues did not help as well.

Did it ever actually break even?  Has the money gained actually equaled the money spent both private and public?

Tunnel opened for business in 1994. First profits made in 2007, much longer than expected indeed.
No public money was spent as I said. 100 million euro benefit in 2013 and they are on a buying spree (ferries freight services).
Of course, the tunnel cost like 12.5 billion euros so your severe criteria are not met. I still think it was worth it, not only for denying the island status of Britain. :)

Ideologue

Quote from: BragancaI still think it was worth it, not only for denying the island status of Britain.

I feel the Heer might be in for a surprise when they try to invade through the Chunnel.
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KRonn

This little tunnel is no big deal. I'll be impressed when they build a train tunnel from mainland China to the US west coast.  Now that there will be a tunnel!! Call it the ChUSel! China US tunnel!   ;)

Ed Anger

Quote from: Ideologue on May 12, 2014, 01:29:55 PM
Quote from: BragancaI still think it was worth it, not only for denying the island status of Britain.

I feel the Heer might be in for a surprise when they try to invade through the Chunnel.

All 5 of them.
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derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 12, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 12, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 12, 2014, 02:26:40 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 11, 2014, 11:09:42 PM
A tunnel from nowhere to nowhere.  I may be wrong here, but I was under the impression that the English Channel Tunnel has been an economic failure.

In the beginning yes, since Maggie would not allow any public monies to fund it so they had to rely too much on banks and stock markets. Not anymore, following restructuring with small shareholders getting their savings wiped out.
Some over optimistic forecasting and rising security issues did not help as well.

Did it ever actually break even?  Has the money gained actually equaled the money spent both private and public?

Tunnel opened for business in 1994. First profits made in 2007, much longer than expected indeed.
No public money was spent as I said. 100 million euro benefit in 2013 and they are on a buying spree (ferries freight services).
Of course, the tunnel cost like 12.5 billion euros so your severe criteria are not met. I still think it was worth it, not only for denying the island status of Britain. :)

No public money was spent?  I was under the impression there were subsidies, and I don't think breaking even is a severe criteria.  So it's been in operation for 20 years and still hasn't even broken even?  That doesn't sound like a success.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

The interstate highway system has been operating for decades on a substantial loss. :(
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Duque de Bragança

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Quote from: Razgovory on May 12, 2014, 10:47:57 PM


No public money was spent?  I was under the impression there were subsidies, and I don't think breaking even is a severe criteria.  So it's been in operation for 20 years and still hasn't even broken even?  That doesn't sound like a success.

Your severe criteria as in "the money gained equaled the money spent both private and public" (sic). How much do you value Britain being linked to the mainland for trains and cars with storms in the Channel no longer isolating Britain from the Continent?
Your impression is just an impression as The tunnel was financed partly from investment by shareholders and partly from £8bn of debt.
QuoteNo government money was invested in the building of the tunnel,
http://web.archive.org/web/20101123153410/http://www.eurotunnel.com/ukcP3Main/ukcCorporate/ukcTunnelInfrastructure/ukcDevelopment/ukpHistory
That's from a not so recent criticism of the tunnel.




mongers

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 13, 2014, 12:00:09 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 12, 2014, 10:47:57 PM


No public money was spent?  I was under the impression there were subsidies, and I don't think breaking even is a severe criteria.  So it's been in operation for 20 years and still hasn't even broken even?  That doesn't sound like a success.

Your severe criteria as in "the money gained equaled the money spent both private and public" (sic). How much do you value Britain being linked to the mainland for trains and cars with storms in the Channel no longer isolating the Continent from the Britain?
Your impression is just an impression as The tunnel was financed partly from investment by shareholders and partly from £8bn of debt.
QuoteNo government money was invested in the building of the tunnel,
http://web.archive.org/web/20101123153410/http://www.eurotunnel.com/ukcP3Main/ukcCorporate/ukcTunnelInfrastructure/ukcDevelopment/ukpHistory
That's from a not so recent criticism of the tunnel.

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