What is the difference between Canada and the US re: socialism

Started by Berkut, May 08, 2014, 05:25:44 AM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Maximus on May 11, 2014, 09:50:36 AM
US Community Colleges are definitely not interchangeable with Universities although you're right in the sense that "going to college" can mean "going to university" here.

Yes, thanks for clarifying.  I didnt mean to suggest that community colleges are equivalent to State universities.

Jacob

... if we are talking community colleges, we should probably compare community colleges in both countries. We have community colleges in Canada too.

CountDeMoney

And some universities have colleges attached to them, e.g., the University of Blah Blah's College of Hey What Now, like the way they have the School of Something or Other.

DGuller

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 11, 2014, 09:34:42 AM
You right, you missed the point.  We dont have "tertiary" government funded universities (well except the UofM but it hurts BB's feelings to always make that point).  Therefore if you are going to compare apples to apples you need to compare our government funded universities to the top government funded universities in the US.
You just repeated what you said last time, again without explaining why we only need to compare top universities.

grumbler

Quote from: Maximus on May 11, 2014, 09:50:36 AM
US Community Colleges are definitely not interchangeable with Universities although you're right in the sense that "going to college" can mean "going to university" here.
Universities are collections of colleges (also referred to frequently as "Schools" though the latter term is, strictly speaking, for graduate studies, not undergrad).  Thus, my degree is from the College of Literature, Science, and the Arts at the University of Michigan.  Michigan also has an Engineering College (usually referred to as the "School of Engineering"), etc. 

Community colleges are a separate thing in the US from college per se.  My understanding is that this is not the case in Canada.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 11, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
And some universities have colleges attached to them, e.g., the University of Blah Blah's College of Hey What Now, like the way they have the School of Something or Other.

And some bigger colleges could be said to have reached the size/prestige level of a "university".

grumbler

Quote from: Tonitrus on May 11, 2014, 10:52:21 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 11, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
And some universities have colleges attached to them, e.g., the University of Blah Blah's College of Hey What Now, like the way they have the School of Something or Other.

And some bigger colleges could be said to have reached the size/prestige level of a "university".
many of them are, in fact, universities (that is, they incorporate multiple colleges and grant advanced degrees).  Savannah College of Art and Design is really a university.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 11, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
And some universities have colleges attached to them, e.g., the University of Blah Blah's College of Hey What Now, like the way they have the School of Something or Other.

Sounds incredibly generic.
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Quote from: grumbler on May 11, 2014, 10:51:45 AMUniversities are collections of colleges (also referred to frequently as "Schools" though the latter term is, strictly speaking, for graduate studies, not undergrad).  Thus, my degree is from the College of Literature, Science, and the Arts at the University of Michigan.  Michigan also has an Engineering College (usually referred to as the "School of Engineering"), etc. 
Interesting.

I wonder if that's an adaptation of the collegiate system from Oxbridge? I know in the UK that still seemed to be the model even in the 19th century even though now UCL, ICL, KCL, Queens College (as it was) Belfast are nowhere near like that.

What does Faculty refer to in the US? I got my degree, for example, from the Faculty of Arts which by the sounds of it would be a College in the US.
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grumbler

Quote from: Sheilbh on May 11, 2014, 07:20:12 PM
Interesting.

I wonder if that's an adaptation of the collegiate system from Oxbridge? I know in the UK that still seemed to be the model even in the 19th century even though now UCL, ICL, KCL, Queens College (as it was) Belfast are nowhere near like that.

What does Faculty refer to in the US? I got my degree, for example, from the Faculty of Arts which by the sounds of it would be a College in the US.
Faculty in the US refers to the teachers collectively.  The faculty senate, for instance, is their elected representatives.
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Admiral Yi

What you're referring to sounds like what we'd call a department.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 11, 2014, 07:37:29 PM
What you're referring to sounds like what we'd call a department.
Faculty of Arts-School of Humanities-Department of English Literature, say.
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Quote from: Sheilbh on May 11, 2014, 07:41:11 PM
Faculty of Arts-School of Humanities-Department of English Literature, say.

We dispensed with this type of frumpery for the most part.

Sheilbh

I'm amazed academics would willingly abolish a chance for office politics :lol:
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