National Popular Vote Interstate Compact Up To 165 EV

Started by jimmy olsen, April 23, 2014, 10:53:54 AM

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Jacob

I don't think they have many crocodiles in Florida. Plenty of alligators, of course :smarty:

Capetan Mihali

Someone ought to kick you guys in the pedanticles. <_<
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Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: Jacob on April 23, 2014, 02:44:01 PM
I don't think they have many crocodiles in Florida. Plenty of alligators, of course :smarty:

2000 vs a couple million or so.

derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on April 23, 2014, 02:37:28 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 23, 2014, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 23, 2014, 01:17:35 PM
Any group of states that include Florida can never be awesome.

Not sure I understand the knock on Florida around here.

It is like God created Hell but that was not terrible enough so then he created a state that combines all the worst qualities of the South and the North of the US and then added humidity and crocodiles.

You almost described Texas there.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: DGuller on April 23, 2014, 01:08:26 PM
Have you read the article?  The problem isn't really the fact that a president can be elected with a minority vote, but rather that the few battleground states have a drastically disproportionate influence on the election.
So?

Is there a democracy in the world that doesn't have battleground states or marginal constituencies or key regions?

Those normally exist because they're politically and demographically relatively moderate. I don't see how it's a bad thing that parties want to appeal to them rather than getting the base excited and racking up massive majorities elsewhere.

I don't get the problem with Electoral College at all. Personally I prefer the Maine/Nebraska Congressional District distribution but I doubt that'd make a massive change. As it is this looks like a solution in search of a problem.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: derspiess on April 23, 2014, 03:20:16 PM
You almost described Texas there.

Nah, Texas has the worst qualities of South and West.
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Capetan Mihali

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 23, 2014, 03:22:37 PMIs there a democracy in the world that doesn't have battleground states or marginal constituencies or key regions?

Those normally exist because they're politically and demographically relatively moderate. I don't see how it's a bad thing that parties want to appeal to them rather than getting the base excited and racking up massive majorities elsewhere.

Our battleground states, at least the major two, are not very demographically representative of the country as a whole.
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Sheilbh

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Capetan Mihali

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 23, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
How so?

Much whiter and older, I think.

EDIT:  Oh, I'm talking about the battleground states for the primaries, Iowa and New Hampshire.  You're talking about the Ohio, Florida, Colorado gang.
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Sheilbh

Ah yeah. The primaries are just quirks of timing. But they serve a purpose too.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Jacob on April 23, 2014, 02:44:01 PM
I don't think they have many crocodiles in Florida. Plenty of alligators, of course :smarty:

They exist, but are endangerment.
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Jacob

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 23, 2014, 02:55:29 PM
Someone ought to kick you guys in the pedanticles. <_<

They are different animals with different eating habits and temperaments. Crocodiles are apparently much more vicious than alligators.

mongers

Is the author of this piece likely to get a 10 minute slot on RT, to help demonstrate why American democracy is broken or a charade ?
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celedhring

Tangential, but seeing the WFP mentioned in that article has reminded me of the surreal NY election ballots, where a dozen or so parties are listed but you only have half that amount of actual candidates  :D