Washington is humanity's worst enemy

[Valmy]

Well this thread took a turn for the Raz.

[Norgy]

There are some commonalities in the Republican assault on truth and the Russian assault on truth.  The central tactic of both is to whip the base into fervor and get them into the habit of self-brainwashing, and spam the public discourse with absurd counter-accusations to confuse the uninformed middle into the "both sides are to blame" mindset.

I think it goes a bit deeper.  If Putin was an American, he'd be popular amongst certain US right wingers.  Anti-gay, pro-religion, pro-military and even a flat tax!  He also has that "tough guy" approach that conservatives love, and has no problem sticking his thumb in the eyes of his traditional enemies (unlike the weak, "Mom Jeans" Obama).  I wonder if we see Putin in the same way the rest of the world saw George W. Bush.

You might be on to something there. But most of the west see Putin as Putin. A bully, a ghost from the past, someone not fit to hold any office except maybe comptroller of the beluga caviar.
The fact that this man and his cronies wield so much power baffles me. And what baffles me more is that Dubya vouched for him in his War On Stuff We Might Think Be Terrorism Or Such And Stuff.

[Razgovory]

Well this thread took a turn for the Raz.

Wags shot first.

[Jacob]

Well this thread took a turn for the Raz.

I think a turn from Pravda to Raz is an improvement.

[garbon]

I wonder if we see Putin in the same way the rest of the world saw George W. Bush.

Then, as we already know, the rest of the world needs to get its vision checked.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Well this thread took a turn for the Raz.

Wags shot first.

[Norgy]

I have noticed a dramatic decline in marriage offers from both Russia and the Ukraine. Might be because I stiffened up my online security, might be something more sinister. They ARE coming, you know.

[crazy canuck]

I have noticed a dramatic decline in marriage offers from both Russia and the Ukraine. Might be because I stiffened up my online security, might be something more sinister. They ARE coming, you know.

If you are becoming less attractive in that market you know you have a problem. 

[The Brain]

I wonder if he was like this when he worked for the Reagan administration.

No, but nice attempt to bring partisan hackery into the debate.

Kinky fuckery?

[Norgy]

I have noticed a dramatic decline in marriage offers from both Russia and the Ukraine. Might be because I stiffened up my online security, might be something more sinister. They ARE coming, you know.

If you are becoming less attractive in that market you know you have a problem. 

I've gained weight. It's a glandular thing. And big bones. And... okay, it's just no willpower.

[Neil]

There are some commonalities in the Republican assault on truth and the Russian assault on truth.  The central tactic of both is to whip the base into fervor and get them into the habit of self-brainwashing, and spam the public discourse with absurd counter-accusations to confuse the uninformed middle into the "both sides are to blame" mindset.

You seem to forget that the truth is what most people agree upon, not actual facts.

I love Faux News, because they're peddling Rupert Murdoch's tears of defeat upon defeat. When that man dies, I will do a little dance and wipe my arse with a copy of "The Sun" I have saved for the occasion.

So then he got your money?  Sounds like he won to me.