NCAA Football, 2014-2015

[Valmy]

People have said that they heard that someone else was getting paid, or "people are getting paid," and the like.  I don't know of anyone who has said, "yeah, I got paid" or "yeah, when Ohio State was recruiting me, they offered me $2500 not to visit Michigan."  You'd think if tens of thousands of players have met with bag men, and everyone thinks that this is no big deal, there would be at least one willing to admit it, even years later.

If they do not have a motive why would they?  I mean nobody admitted it during the late 70s, early 80s either and it was a lot less sophisticated. 

[grumbler]

If they do not have a motive why would they?  I mean nobody admitted it during the late 70s, early 80s either and it was a lot less sophisticated.

You'd think that one player out of tens of thousands would grow up enough to realize that corruption is bad.  I suppose you could argue that not one football player for the SEC or SWC in the last 40 years has a motive to support fair intercollegiate competition, but I'd argue that position really doesn't pass the smell test.

[Valmy]

If they do not have a motive why would they?  I mean nobody admitted it during the late 70s, early 80s either and it was a lot less sophisticated.

You'd think that one player out of tens of thousands would grow up enough to realize that corruption is bad.  I suppose you could argue that not one football player for the SEC or SWC in the last 40 years has a motive to support fair intercollegiate competition, but I'd argue that position really doesn't pass the smell test.

Players come out all the time, but as I said not with sufficient evidence to bust anybody because why should they put their ass on the line in a crusade that doesn't benefit them and would probably hurt them quite a bit?  Besides it is not the players job to monitor all the adults in this stuff.  The SMU guy did because he had a specific grievance.  Anyway, we will see if anybody bothers to actually investigate and look into this, I suspect nothing will happen as it always does when stories like this come out.  I mean we had evidence, in writing, of Oregon giving out money to influence (not directly to him of course) Lache Seastrunk and nothing happened at all and everybody was sure Oregon was screwed.

[CountDeMoney]

Besides it is not the players job to monitor all the adults in this stuff. 

The majority of studint-affletes probably don't even know what the very complicated rules are, and when they are told, they either forget or don't care or both. 
grumbler, however, has faith in the fact that studint-affletes believe in the healing power of confession by narcing out coaches, boosters and fellow teammates immediately upon graduation.

[grumbler]

Players come out all the time, but as I said not with sufficient evidence to bust anybody because why should they put their ass on the line in a crusade that doesn't benefit them and would probably hurt them quite a bit?

I suppose for the same reason that Kain Colter has been ramrodding the NW players' union effort, even though it won't come into existence until after he has left, and all his efforts could do is harm him.  Maybe the bagmen are good enough to avoid programs like that and people like Colter, and a guy smart enough to graduate from NW in four years doesn't know anything about such a supposedly-widespread problem.

Besides it is not the players job to monitor all the adults in this stuff.

I have no idea what this means.  Who thinks someone has a job of "monitor[ing] all the adults?"

The SMU guy did because he had a specific grievance.  Anyway, we will see if anybody bothers to actually investigate and look into this, I suspect nothing will happen as it always does when stories like this come out.  I mean we had evidence, in writing, of Oregon giving out money to influence (not directly to him of course) Lache Seastrunk and nothing happened at all and everybody was sure Oregon was screwed.

You think the healthy guys Saban cuts from the team for "football-ending injuries" don't have a specific grievance?   That Brandon Gibbons doesn't have a specific grievance? There are lots of players with specific grievances.  Not one has come out and said that they took money, as far as I know.

The NCAA hasn't got shit from this article - the article is designed not to give them anything.  I don't know what evidence we have of Oregon paying Seastrunk indirectly to go to Baylor, unless you mean the Complete Scouting Services bullshit (which wouldn't just have been Seastrunk).  Even then, "everybody" isn't you and your next-door neighbor.  I think everyone I was talking to about this thought Oregon had covered their tracks well enough to avoid indictment, though not well-enough to avoid getting caught doing the dirty.

But even the Oregon stuff isn't anywhere near the scale of what this Steven Godfrey and his "bag man" claims is happening.  I just don't think that things could happen on that scale and it not become known.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Washington's new textured alternate helmets are weird.

[MadImmortalMan]

Looks like that ionized powder-paint stuff.

[PDH]

Wyoming held the Spring Game today.  Sadly, after the final whistle Wyoming is now 1-1 on the season.

[grumbler]

Looks like that ionized powder-paint stuff.

Apparently, it is supposed to show better on TV.  Michigan played a night game in helmets that had that stuff, specifically because it looked better (or so the AD said) on hi-def TV.

[alfred russel]

Looks like that ionized powder-paint stuff.

Apparently, it is supposed to show better on TV.  Michigan played a night game in helmets that had that stuff, specifically because it looked better (or so the AD said) on hi-def TV.

If the Michigan AD wants his team to look good on hi-def TV, he should look into fielding a team that can win more than a game or two in the back half of the season.

[grumbler]

If the Michigan AD wants his team to look good on hi-def TV, he should look into fielding a team that can win more than a game or two in the back half of the season.

Or schedule those as night games...

[Admiral Yi]

I enjoyed the bag  man article but I saw no mention of sex.

[alfred russel]

If the Michigan AD wants his team to look good on hi-def TV, he should look into fielding a team that can win more than a game or two in the back half of the season.

Or schedule those as night games...

Lets face it...the only way to avoid looking bad when Denard Robinson is your QB, and with that defense, is to play all night games. Without turning the lights on.

[grumbler]

Lets face it...the only way to avoid looking bad when Denard Robinson is your QB, and with that defense, is to play all night games. Without turning the lights on.

Denard Robinson hasn't been the QB for the last season and a half.  Ironically, when he left, so did the defense.

You are correct that the team would be better off if the opponents were as much in the dark as the Michigan players.

But There's Always Next year(TM)

[alfred russel]

Lets face it...the only way to avoid looking bad when Denard Robinson is your QB, and with that defense, is to play all night games. Without turning the lights on.

Denard Robinson hasn't been the QB for the last season and a half.  Ironically, when he left, so did the defense.

You are correct that the team would be better off if the opponents were as much in the dark as the Michigan players.

But There's Always Next year(TM)

I might be getting senile.

I was going to make the suggestion that Denard Robinson games should be played at night, without lights, and in the nude. He would be naturally camouflaged. Maybe that would give him a competitive advantage, maybe not. But at least it would keep Brady Hoke from having a stroke from seeing him throw another interception.

And me from having a stroke when he decides to have his one good quarter of downfield passing in his whole college career against the ND defense.