I Watched Russian State Television for a Whole Day

Started by Syt, April 08, 2014, 08:52:09 AM

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Barrister

I do not believe that in 2014 the Russian population believes this propaganda.  Do some Russians buy it?  Sure.  But do most?  No.  Russians knew their government was lying to them in soviet eras, and that was before the internet.

Remember it was just two years ago when 100,000+ protestors took to the streets in Moscow to protest Putin's re-election.
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DGuller

Quote from: Barrister on April 08, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
I do not believe that in 2014 the Russian population believes this propaganda.  Do some Russians buy it?  Sure.  But do most?  No.  Russians knew their government was lying to them in soviet eras, and that was before the internet.
I don't think you appreciate how propaganda works.  People can simultaneously believe that they're being lied to, and still buy into majority of propaganda points.  I think the belief that access to Internet makes someone propaganda-proofed is deeply misguided.

garbon

Quote from: DGuller on April 08, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
I think the belief that access to Internet makes someone propaganda-proofed is deeply misguided.

Yeah I mean snopes exists precisely because people don't critically look at what they see on the net.
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Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on April 08, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 08, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
I do not believe that in 2014 the Russian population believes this propaganda.  Do some Russians buy it?  Sure.  But do most?  No.  Russians knew their government was lying to them in soviet eras, and that was before the internet.
I don't think you appreciate how propaganda works.  People can simultaneously believe that they're being lied to, and still buy into majority of propaganda points.  I think the belief that access to Internet makes someone propaganda-proofed is deeply misguided.

Yeah, we call it double-think.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Barrister on April 08, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
Remember it was just two years ago when 100,000+ protestors took to the streets in Moscow to protest Putin's re-election.
Yeah. But that doesn't mean they don't necessarily have some of that world view. The corrosive element is that if that's the system you're from why would you believe the West is any different. Isn't the corruption and propaganda just a little bit better?

It's similar to the Arab world and conspiracies.
Let's bomb Russia!