Mozilla CEO resigns because of Prop 8 donation in 2008

[Neil]

And there's an amount of respect. There will be people who oppose gay marriage regardless - especially religious people.

Why should we have respect for a failure to adjust one's beliefs to modern values? Well actually, why should we have respect for individuals to fail to learn modern values?

And so goes the argument of the culture warrior.

Just another example of why garbon is an example of everything that is wrong with the West.

[garbon]

And there's an amount of respect. There will be people who oppose gay marriage regardless - especially religious people.

Why should we have respect for a failure to adjust one's beliefs to modern values? Well actually, why should we have respect for individuals to fail to learn modern values?

And so goes the argument of the culture warrior.

Just another example of why garbon is an example of everything that is wrong with the West.

It's completely possible to be Christian and let this issue slide.

[Neil]

You attempt to decide what modern values are has failed.

[garbon]

You attempt to decide what modern values are has failed.

I'm not deciding anything.

[Razgovory]

You attempt to decide what modern values are has failed.

I'm not deciding anything.

Clearly.  Neil just said you failed at it.

[stjaba]

In a free society, you have a right to make yourself heard, but that doesn't mean you can hide behind pseudonyms and subterfuge to keep your identity secret. The founding fathers would never have failed to put their name to their arguments when debating the constitution, for instance.

Good point "alfred russel."   

I hope everyone is being sarcastic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers

[DGuller]

But this is hardly an isolated incident, it is more the phenomenon in general that makes me nervous.  Anything political you might have posted on your facebook or wherever years ago can someday take you down.  Maybe you just signed that petition to get that annoying activist to leave you alone.  Maybe you temporarily joined a nutty religion but got better.  I know I have flirted with some stupid ideas in the past (or rather constantly as anybody who reads Languish might note ) and while I have no idea what is out there it would be pretty embarrassing if somebody found something and I had to publicly explain myself and beg forgiveness if I were to miraculously ever achieve a position of status.

Agreed.  I find Internet mob justice to be one of the scariest things that online communication brought us.  At any moment, any given person can be characterized by the one thing out of thousands that he did, and a viral outrage can destroy their life before they even have a chance to fight back, or put things in context.  In the long run, that can lead to everyone being afraid to be on record doing anything controversial at all, since most people have an employer that would rather eliminate a headache than take its lumps sticking up for their suddenly notorious employee.

[Norgy]

I don't find his resignation upsetting or strange in the least. Mostly because the Mozilla brand has been built on being an open-source alternative to corporations like Microsoft, Google and Apple. Having a CEO that works against alternative lifestyles just undermines the brand's core values.

[mongers]

I'm a liberal; quick I need to take some sort or any position on this, with which I can be outraged. 

[Neil]

I don't find his resignation upsetting or strange in the least. Mostly because the Mozilla brand has been built on being an open-source alternative to corporations like Microsoft, Google and Apple. Having a CEO that works against alternative lifestyles just undermines the brand's core values.

Does it though?  Are Mozilla's core values hating civilization?

[Norgy]

I don't find his resignation upsetting or strange in the least. Mostly because the Mozilla brand has been built on being an open-source alternative to corporations like Microsoft, Google and Apple. Having a CEO that works against alternative lifestyles just undermines the brand's core values.

Does it though?  Are Mozilla's core values hating civilization?

If you try to see it from the point of view of people who aren't, well, you, I think you can see my point. Mozilla's core value seems to be not making good browsers anymore, though.

[mongers]

I don't find his resignation upsetting or strange in the least. Mostly because the Mozilla brand has been built on being an open-source alternative to corporations like Microsoft, Google and Apple. Having a CEO that works against alternative lifestyles just undermines the brand's core values.

Does it though?  Are Mozilla's core values hating civilization?

If you try to see it from the point of view of people who aren't, well, you, I think you can see my point. Mozilla's core value seems to be not making good browsers anymore, though.

Mozilla's core values are whatever the career aspirations of it's top half-dozen executives are.

[Norgy]

Like most corporations.
But, we need to remember that corporations are people. 

[mongers]

Like most corporations.
But, we need to remember that corporations are people. 

Yeah, that's rather a weird idea, isn't it.

[grumbler]

But, we need to remember that corporations are people. 

Then, by the transitive property, Soylent Green is corporations.