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Atlanta's Food Deserts

Started by Syt, March 17, 2014, 07:43:28 AM

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Grey Fox

I. do. not. want. to. go. buy. groceries. everyday. Get it?
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derspiess

Quote from: Grey Fox on March 17, 2014, 11:18:47 AM
I. do. not. want. to. go. buy. groceries. everyday. Get it?

Neither do I, but it's cool to have that option.
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katmai

Quote from: Grey Fox on March 17, 2014, 11:18:47 AM
I. do. not. want. to. go. buy. groceries. everyday. Get it?
stop popping out kids Canadian Ed anger.
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PRC

Quote from: Malthus on March 17, 2014, 11:13:34 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 17, 2014, 09:35:02 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 17, 2014, 08:10:10 AM
Go pick up some produce at a stall?  Where can you do that?

I don't know, maybe it's the winters here that prevents those sorts of things from being set up, but I can't imagine doing that.

No farmers' markets in Canada?

Dunno about Alberta but there is a huge one in downtown Toronto.

http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/st-lawrence-market-toronto-named-world-best-food-145127435.html

There are three big ones in the city in Calgary.  One excellent not that far out of town to the South and an excellent Hutterite market about 45 minutes to the Northwest of the city.  Maybe it's just Edmonton that's lacking this?

Grey Fox

Quote from: katmai on March 17, 2014, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 17, 2014, 11:18:47 AM
I. do. not. want. to. go. buy. groceries. everyday. Get it?
stop popping out kids Canadian Ed anger.

Tell that to BB. Looks like I'm stoping at 2.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: derspiess on March 17, 2014, 11:21:58 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 17, 2014, 11:18:47 AM
I. do. not. want. to. go. buy. groceries. everyday. Get it?

Neither do I, but it's cool to have that option.

I guess.  :hmm:
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Barrister

Quote from: PRC on March 17, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 17, 2014, 11:13:34 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 17, 2014, 09:35:02 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 17, 2014, 08:10:10 AM
Go pick up some produce at a stall?  Where can you do that?

I don't know, maybe it's the winters here that prevents those sorts of things from being set up, but I can't imagine doing that.

No farmers' markets in Canada?

Dunno about Alberta but there is a huge one in downtown Toronto.

http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/st-lawrence-market-toronto-named-world-best-food-145127435.html

There are three big ones in the city in Calgary.  One excellent not that far out of town to the South and an excellent Hutterite market about 45 minutes to the Northwest of the city.  Maybe it's just Edmonton that's lacking this?

No, Edmonton has several farmer's markets.  Most open only for the summer, though at least the Strathcona market is open year round (Saturday's only).  Trouble is, of course, that during the winter there's no fresh produce to buy.
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Jacob

Quote from: garbon on March 17, 2014, 09:35:02 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 17, 2014, 08:10:10 AM
Go pick up some produce at a stall?  Where can you do that?

I don't know, maybe it's the winters here that prevents those sorts of things from being set up, but I can't imagine doing that.

No farmers' markets in Canada?

There are.

Neil

Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 17, 2014, 11:07:54 AM
Beats two pages of "Niggers? Let 'em starve!" Languish bullshit from you assfucks.
Except nobody is starving. 
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Neil

Quote from: Barrister on March 17, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: PRC on March 17, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 17, 2014, 11:13:34 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 17, 2014, 09:35:02 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 17, 2014, 08:10:10 AM
Go pick up some produce at a stall?  Where can you do that?

I don't know, maybe it's the winters here that prevents those sorts of things from being set up, but I can't imagine doing that.

No farmers' markets in Canada?

Dunno about Alberta but there is a huge one in downtown Toronto.

http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/st-lawrence-market-toronto-named-world-best-food-145127435.html

There are three big ones in the city in Calgary.  One excellent not that far out of town to the South and an excellent Hutterite market about 45 minutes to the Northwest of the city.  Maybe it's just Edmonton that's lacking this?
No, Edmonton has several farmer's markets.  Most open only for the summer, though at least the Strathcona market is open year round (Saturday's only).  Trouble is, of course, that during the winter there's no fresh produce to buy.
My sister is going to that one when she can.  Still, it looks like my thoughts about climate seem to have some basis.

Then again, I've never been the sort of person to go in for that sort of thing anyways.  I live five minutes walk from a supermarket, and so I have all the produce I could want.  Then again, Canadian cities have different issues than US ones.
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Savonarola

Detroit is often labeled as a food desert.  Until last year there were no chain grocery stores in the city.  There's two now, a Trader Joes in midtown and a Meijer up near the border with the suburbs.  There's a Farmers Market (Eastern Market) but that's only open once a week.  And there's a good sized Supermercado in Mexican town where you can get fresh produce.

Three supermarkets aren't very many for a city the size of Detroit.  The city is the size of Manhattan, San Francisco and Boston combined.  The bus service is as dysfunctional as every other city service.  So city residents without a car are forced to rely on party stores which have only shelf stable foods.

Kwame Kilpatrick at one time suggested a tax on fast food; this proved to be so unpopular that even Kwame had to back off almost immediately.

One solution that I've heard proposed is to provide a subsidy to party stores to carry fresh produce.  This being Detroit, such a plan would be open to fraud and abuse; but I don't know if there's a better plan.  What other incentive do the party store owners have to provide fresh produce?
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Quote from: Savonarola on March 17, 2014, 04:51:28 PM
Detroit is often labeled as a food desert.  Until last year there were no chain grocery stores in the city.  There's two now, a Trader Joes in midtown and a Meijer up near the border with the suburbs.  There's a Farmers Market (Eastern Market) but that's only open once a week.  And there's a good sized Supermercado in Mexican town where you can get fresh produce.

Three supermarkets aren't very many for a city the size of Detroit.  The city is the size of Manhattan, San Francisco and Boston combined.  The bus service is as dysfunctional as every other city service.  So city residents without a car are forced to rely on party stores which have only shelf stable foods.

Kwame Kilpatrick at one time suggested a tax on fast food; this proved to be so unpopular that even Kwame had to back off almost immediately.

One solution that I've heard proposed is to provide a subsidy to party stores to carry fresh produce.  This being Detroit, such a plan would be open to fraud and abuse; but I don't know if there's a better plan.  What other incentive do the party store owners have to provide fresh produce?

Thats insane, if I throw a rock out from the roof of my house there is a chance I'm going to hit 3 grocery stores & maybe 3 pharmacy. In a 12km radius there is 10 grocery stores.
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stjaba

Quote from: Savonarola on March 17, 2014, 04:51:28 PM
Detroit is often labeled as a food desert.  Until last year there were no chain grocery stores in the city.  There's two now, a Trader Joes in midtown and a Meijer up near the border with the suburbs.  There's a Farmers Market (Eastern Market) but that's only open once a week.  And there's a good sized Supermercado in Mexican town where you can get fresh produce.

Three supermarkets aren't very many for a city the size of Detroit.  The city is the size of Manhattan, San Francisco and Boston combined.  The bus service is as dysfunctional as every other city service.  So city residents without a car are forced to rely on party stores which have only shelf stable foods.

Kwame Kilpatrick at one time suggested a tax on fast food; this proved to be so unpopular that even Kwame had to back off almost immediately.

One solution that I've heard proposed is to provide a subsidy to party stores to carry fresh produce.  This being Detroit, such a plan would be open to fraud and abuse; but I don't know if there's a better plan.  What other incentive do the party store owners have to provide fresh produce?

What are party stores? Is that like a convenience store?

I've noticed in Tampa that chain convenience stores carry some fresh produce(i.e. a basket of apples and bananas) and freshly made, pre-made sandwiches.

garbon

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