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Started by Syt, February 22, 2014, 02:39:19 AM

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Syt

According to the Daily Mail at least. :P

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2562584/The-Viking-Apocalypse-Norse-myth-predicts-world-end-Saturday.html

QuoteAre you ready for the Viking Apocalypse? Norse myth predicts world will end this Saturday

* Norse mythology states the world will end this Saturday, February 22
* Ragnarok is last battle between Viking gods, causing Earth to split open
* After, the Earth will be restored and inhabited by the surviving gods

We've survived the Mayan apocalypse and Y2K, but be afraid – the end of the world is coming...again.

This time it's the Viking apocalypse that is allegedly set to destroy Earth, with Norse mythology claiming the planet will split open and unleash the inhabitants of Hel on February 22.
According to the Vikings, Ragnarok is a series of events including the final predicted battle that results in the death of a number of major gods, the occurrence of various natural disasters and the subsequent submersion of the world in water.

The wolf Fenrir is also predicted to break out of his prison, the snake Jormungand will rise out of the sea and the dragon of the underworld will resurface on Earth to face the dead heroes of Valhalla – who, of course, have descended from heaven to fight them.

Legend has it the sound of the horn will call the sons of the god Odin and the heroes to the battlefield, before Odin and other 'creator gods' will be killed by Fenrir.
The Vikings believe the Ragnarok is preceded by the 'winter of winters', where three freezing winters would follow each other with no summers in between.
All morality would disappear and fights would break out all over the world, signalling the beginning of the end.
The wolf Skoll would then devour the sun, and his brother Hati would eat the moon, causing stars to fall out of the sky and the Earth subjected to tremendous earthquakes.
Should Saturday be the day, the world will then be restored and will be inhabited by the surviving gods and just two human survivors - with the Earth sinking into the sea and paving the way for a new utopian land with endless supplies.
Another part of the legend claims that the Midgard Serpent, named Jormungand, shall free itself from its tail and rise up from the ocean, with believers claiming this had already occurred when two giant fish washed up on the coast of California last year.
Ragnarok, which is literally translated to mean 'Fate or Twilight of the Gods' or 'Final Destiny of the Gods' is based on a 13th century poem written by Snorri Sturluson.
Modern day Vikings warriors have already begun preparing for the apocalypse by converging on the UK town of York to celebrate the Jorvik festival – an excuse for grown men to dress up and swing replica swords at each other.
The festival's finale on Saturday will see about 300 warriors march through the city, before rival tribes participate in an 'ultimate battle'.
The Jorvik Viking Centre predicted that Ragnarok would occur on 22 February because this is the end of the feast of Jolablot.
Traditionally, the Viking festival of Jolablot marked the end of the winter.

While not a scientific conclusion, they claim that Vikings loved to feast and wouldn't want to miss this event.
And if nothing happens on Saturday, Ragnarok will join a list of hundreds of other failed predictions for the end of the world, including the Mayan apocalypse on December 21, 2012 – which convinced many the Earth would be destroyed by an asteroid – and Y2K on January 1, 2000.
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Viking

It's an old word and it certainly doesn't mean twilight of the gods, it's an event where there is a change of gods. If it means anything it means magical consequence. In icelandic the word for logic translates to "science of consequences) or rökfrædi. The first half, might mean magic, or something else. In anycase, Ragnarök are the consequences of the actions of the gods (primarily Loki).

The very idea of Ragnarök actually manifests very late in the pagan period, after contact with christianity. The death of a god leading to a paradise with eternal life probably seemed pretty tempting, which is precisely what Ragnarök are. Evil in the form of the Fenriswolf and Midgardsworm are destroyed, at the cost of their own life by odin and thor respectively with finally the harbinger of the new generation of gods, vidar, with his boots, stomping out evil from the world. The New Gods, including Vidar, Hod, Ull etc. were primarily worshiped in sweden after christianity had taken over norway and denmark but had yet to succeed in sweden.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

I wasn't aware the Norse put a date on it.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

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Viking

Jólablót is Christmas not valentines day. Late Feb is Dísablót, maidens worship/sacrifice. It's like norse valentines day. 

this is all bs, 2014 has no significance.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Darth Wagtaros

PDH!

Viking

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 22, 2014, 09:18:38 AM
Isnt Norse myth cyclical?

nope, linear, there was a creation and then history happened
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

Assuming viking is right (and I see no reason to doubt him), I wonder where the dailymail came up with this story.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

Quote from: Razgovory on February 22, 2014, 02:23:15 PM
Assuming viking is right (and I see no reason to doubt him), I wonder where the dailymail came up with this story.

QuoteThe Jorvik Viking Centre
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Queequeg

Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Queequeg

So why is there a Viking Cultural Center there? 
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

garbon

Seems to make sense. After all, there would be Viking artifacts.

I'll be in York this summer. I can check it out for you.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.