Arizona GOP censures McCain for 'liberal' record

[Admiral Yi]

but that wasn't an ad hominem

Agreed.  There is a difference between making an ad hom argument and being a pointlessly rude fuck.

[LaCroix]

Agreed.  There is a difference between making an ad hom argument and being a pointlessly rude fuck.

i dunno, there are posters here that use offensive language toward others, but they're (usually) not considered "being pointlessly rude fuck"

[Capetan Mihali]

Look, g, we all know that trolling and pointless ad hominem attacks is just "what you do" around here, but is this really necessary?

but that wasn't an ad hominem

But it was though, I think -- 'the argument belongs to DSB; therefore, it is moronic.'

[Admiral Yi]

i dunno, there are posters here that use offensive language toward others, but they're (usually) not considered "being pointlessly rude fuck"

What's your point?  Are you taking exception to my implication that grumbler is a pointlessly rude fuck?

[LaCroix]

But it was though, I think -- 'the argument belongs to DSB; therefore, it is moronic.'

he didn't rest his point against dsb through the "moronic" statement. that was more a tacked on comment

[Capetan Mihali]

But it was though, I think -- 'the argument belongs to DSB; therefore, it is moronic.'

he didn't rest his point against dsb through the "moronic" statement. that was more a tacked on comment

Ah.

[Ideologue]

Yeah, well, Eugene V. Debs never got enough votes,

Maybe you should reflect on that when contemplating rejecting voters from the Democrats. 

That's certainly what the Democrats think when they dispute having anything to do with Ide.  He's a one-man "Democratic" party, distinct from the Democratic Party that actually does shit instead of just talking.

Hey, if you're more influential than me, it's only because someone fucked up and gave you a position of authority over children.  And tenure.

[LaCroix]

Are you taking exception to my implication that grumbler is a pointlessly rude fuck?

that depends. if a community directs certain language at each other fairly often and offense isn't taken by that language, then why would grumbler (a member of the community) be singled out for being rude (offensive) for using that same language?

[Jacob]

that depends. if a community directs certain language at each other fairly often and offense isn't taken by that language, then why would grumbler (a member of the community) be singled out for being rude (offensive) for using that same language?

You almost have the answer in your question. If you ponder it a bit more, you may figure it out.

[grumbler]

Agreed.  There is a difference between making an ad hom argument and being a pointlessly rude fuck.

Exactly, as you would be in a position to know; that's why, I think, I seldom see you make ad homs.

[grumbler]

What's your point?  Are you taking exception to my implication that grumbler is a pointlessly rude fuck?

That you fail to see the point doesn't make my "rude" statement pointless.

[LaCroix]

You almost have the answer in your question. If you ponder it a bit more, you may figure it out.

you're right, i probably should have used "offensive attitude" instead of "offensive language" 

[Admiral Yi]

that depends. if a community directs certain language at each other fairly often and offense isn't taken by that language, then why would grumbler (a member of the community) be singled out for being rude (offensive) for using that same language?

The feedback loop.  If I call you a dickhead, and you cry like a baby, I shouldn't do it any more.  If I persist, after you've made it clear that you're not enjoying the intended joke, then I'm being a pointlessly rude fuck.

[grumbler]

But it was though, I think -- 'the argument belongs to DSB; therefore, it is moronic.'

that's not at all what an ad hom is, though, as I pointed out earlier.

An ad hom goes like this (not an actual example from languish):

Minsky:  "Making rich people poorer doesn't make poor people richer."

Ide: "You only say that because you are rich."

Insulting someone isn't an ad hom, it is an insult.  Claiming that someone says moronic things, and when called out simply argues that you were foolish for taking him seriously, isn't an ad hom, it is an insult (if even that).

[LaCroix]

The feedback loop.  If I call you a dickhead, and you cry like a baby, I shouldn't do it any more.  If I persist, after you've made it clear that you're not enjoying the intended joke, then I'm being a pointlessly rude fuck.

has dsb cried like a baby?