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The Ancient Ghost City of Ani

Started by Syt, January 25, 2014, 01:38:26 AM

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Grinning_Colossus

Given that agricultural civilization dates back to 5,000 B.C. on Crete, it's clear that God created them there, so they had no need of boats. Later on of course they were attacked and eaten by the boat-borne Sea Peoples, ancestors of the modern Palestinians.
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Quote from: Siege on January 27, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
So,  Minoan ships, were they like the Phoenician round ships?

They were like Atlantian ships with painted sails.  The great Minoan age is but a remnant of the Atlantian culture
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Siege

Ok, I thought this was a general ancient times thread, since this is the only ancient thread going on right now.
My bad.
Next question.
Why did the Phoenicias survived the sea people invasions unscathed?
Were they part or allied with them?
They certainly went right back to Iberia to control the tin and other metals trade previously controlled by the minoans and briefly by the mycenae.


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Quote from: Siege on January 28, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Next question.
Why did the Phoenicias survived the sea people invasions unscathed?
Were they part or allied with them?

No one really knows what happened at the end of the Bronze Age.  What we do know is a bunch of cites in the Levant the Aegean and elsewhere were destroyed within a period of a several decades.  One of those was Ugarit which went from being the premier city of the region to total permanent destruction so it is not was correct that the Phoencians were unscathed.  As to how the destruction happened and who was involved, those are still open questions.  The very notion is of a "sea people invasion" is hypothetical or alternatively just raises a lot more questions about terms.  It is true that Tyre among other Levantine cities appears to have been spared destruction; the same is true of Carchemish and pretty much all of Assyria.
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