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Started by Josephus, January 24, 2014, 07:06:15 PM

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Berkut

Is the AI any good at naval invasions?

My first "real" game as the US, and I reinforced the Phillipines pretty heavily, about a dozen divisions.

The Brits showed up after war broke out and the Japanese fleet promptly came over and kicked their teeth in quite thoroughly.

But then the seem to be sending in single division landings, which just keep failing....
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DGuller

AI naval invasions can be pretty dangerous, their threat shouldn't be underestimated.  You can definitely milk the AI naval invasions for massive stackwipes, but that's a pretty advanced tactic to abuse the AI.  They can definitely unload a D-Day on you and send you scrambling to reinforce if your coastal protection plan was relying on naval superiority, and your navy decided to go repair itself.

Razgovory

The next expansion is suppose to rework armor.  Hopefully it tame halftracks.
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Neil

Quote from: DGuller on August 23, 2021, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 23, 2021, 10:58:14 AM
And it's stuff like that why I've never touched HOI III/IV. Four games in and they still can't even get combat avoiding the giggle test.
They do have some pretty elaborate focus trees for Mexico, though, you have to give them that.
That's called knowing your audience though.  They're not going after the grognard market, but rather their tried-and-tested group of people who want to create alt-history. 
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Sheilbh

:o I play Mexico a fair bit (who doesn't love Cardenas).

But more generally it's not normally alt-historying it's just that I find the game a bit overwhelming/big if you're one of the big countries. There's too much to look at/do so I tend to play more minor side roll countries that can help but are not particularly decisive.

So I quite like the Mexican content :blush: Same for Turkey, Hungary etc.
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DGuller

I used to play Mexico a lot until the new focus tree was added.  It was a nice challenge with the generic focus tree, and obviously the main objective is to conquer USA before USA wakes up.  Once the new focus tree was added, the fun was killed, to me it became a stupid RPG game.

FunkMonk

I've got the Paradox bug but I can't stand playing their vanilla games nowadays. Which total conversion mod for Hearts of Iron 4 is the best? Kaiserreich looks cool but I've watched a few videos of Old World Blues and it looks incredibly well made and basically complete.

Side question: Is it a problem for Paradox that mods of their games are better than their games?
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Razgovory

The two mods I like best are Kaiserreich and Road to 56.  Neither really changes much about the basics of the game.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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grumbler

I like Kaiserreich because you never know what is going to happen politically.  Other than Germany and Japan remaining some sort of anti-socialist government and the UK and France always being socialist, everything else is pretty much up for grabs.  Even some of the smaller powers are fun to play, because every game gives you a different challenge.
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FunkMonk

I've been trying out Kaiserreich as you both suggested and it is indeed very cool. Thanks.  :cool:
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Syt

So HoI4 is now getting railroad networks and improved supply models? Also, doctrines will now be researched by using experience.
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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Berkut on August 23, 2021, 03:07:32 PM
Is the AI any good at naval invasions?

My first "real" game as the US, and I reinforced the Phillipines pretty heavily, about a dozen divisions.

The Brits showed up after war broke out and the Japanese fleet promptly came over and kicked their teeth in quite thoroughly.

But then the seem to be sending in single division landings, which just keep failing....
So that sounds like HoI I, I remember the constant single division invasions of France when I was playing as Germany. 
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FunkMonk

Anyone picking up the newest expansion? Reading some very good things about it. It mixes up the combat engine, adds supply lines, redoes the Soviet tree, and improves the front AI.
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Syt

Waiting for a patch or two. But I've only 13 hours total in the game, anyways. :P
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