Turkey introduces Ottoman language as mandatory subject at schools

Started by Syt, January 09, 2015, 03:30:44 AM

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Quote from: alfred russel on January 14, 2015, 06:53:02 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 14, 2015, 12:04:44 AM
It's true. I'm imagining that Hungary starts it over something very unimportant, with absolutely no support from anyone else in Europe/the World. They lose catastrophically and spend the next 1000 years playing the martyr about it.

This is Orban's Hungary. He seems more likely to side with Hungary's historic enemies/occupiers.

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Sheilbh

He's sticking with it :lol:

Erdogan greets the Azeri President:



And they played the 'Resurrection Anthem' which is the theme song of a historical drama about the founding of the Ottoman Empire.
Let's bomb Russia!

Syt

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Martinus

Quote from: Sheilbh on January 15, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
He's sticking with it :lol:

Erdogan greets the Azeri President:



And they played the 'Resurrection Anthem' which is the theme song of a historical drama about the founding of the Ottoman Empire.

This kinda looks like a LARP convention or a school play. :D

Syt

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-20/erdogan-s-reinvention-of-turkey-isn-t-funny

QuoteErdogan's Reinvention of Turkey Isn't Funny

The recent photograph of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan descending the staircase of his new palace between rows of soldiers in historic costume has been met with widespread derision, but it's part of a broad and deadly serious attempt to reinvent the Republic of Turkey.

On social media, the image has been remade with everything from Star Wars characters to superheroes as his honor guard. As so often, though, those who laugh at Erdogan (I laughed out loud) underestimate him. The derision was misplaced, but fear would be justified.

Erdogan is reinventing Turkey, which was already remodeled once from the remnants of the Ottoman Empire by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. The republic's founder was a true revolutionary. He not only dispatched the sultans and halted the dismembering of Anatolia by the victorious allies after World War I; he also changed Turkish culture by diktat, including dress, structure, alphabet and ideology.

As Erdogan reconfigures the country again, why not include an costumed honor guard to remind the nation of its roots? Any tourist who has watched Trooping the Colour at Buckingham Palace has seen greater historical silliness.

As the historians Eric Hobsbawm and Terrence Ranger said in their classic book, "The Invention of Tradition," most supposedly ancient traditions are rather recent creations, and very deliberate constructions:

QuoteThe history which became part of the fund of knowledge or the ideology of nation, state or movement is not what has actually been preserved in popular memory, but what has been selected, written, pictured, popularized and institutionalized by those whose function it is to do so.

In this case, that person is Erdogan. His super-sized palace, bigger than Versailles, is part of this reinvention of Turkish tradition (the old presidential seat was Ataturk's). So are the recent laws to change the nature of education, and his reinfusion of religion into the fiercely secular Turkish state.

And to carry his reconstruction of the country to whatever endpoint he has in view, Erdogan clearly believes he needs all available levers of power. So although he is now the president, Erdogan this week convened a meeting of the cabinet that he used to run as prime minister, shoving aside his pliant successor Ahmet Davutoglu. Still not satisfied, Erdogan reiterated that he wants to amend the constitution, formalizing a transfer of power to the presidency.

The exertion of power extends to speech. This week the government pushed a law through parliament that would give individual cabinet ministers the power to block any website within four hours and without a court order.

So strong is the perception of Erdogan's control that the supposedly independent central bank struggled today to convince investors that it had cut the nation's interest rate in response to inflation expectations, rather than because of political pressure from a president who believes for ideological reasons that effective interest rates should be zero.

Add to this the continued purging of Turkey's judicial institutions, and the jailing and intimidation of its journalists, and the debates over free speech in France begin to look quaint by comparison.

Erdogan and his supporters don't see anything humorous about their project. Professor Hasan Herken, dean of the medical faculty at Pamukkale University, resigned after posting the picture of Erdogan and his 16 guards, each representing a former Turkic empire, on Twitter.

"Which Turkish principality is this one wearing a bathrobe?" Herken asked in his post. He said he stepped down because of death threats directed at him and his family.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Martinus on January 16, 2015, 12:54:20 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 15, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
He's sticking with it :lol:

Erdogan greets the Azeri President:



And they played the 'Resurrection Anthem' which is the theme song of a historical drama about the founding of the Ottoman Empire.

This kinda looks like a LARP convention or a school play. :D

It's like a country where it's Halloween everyday.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Syt on January 21, 2015, 10:27:33 AM
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-20/erdogan-s-reinvention-of-turkey-isn-t-funny

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So strong is the perception of Erdogan's control that the supposedly independent central bank struggled today to convince investors that it had cut the nation's interest rate in response to inflation expectations, rather than because of political pressure from a president who believes for ideological reasons that effective interest rates should be zero.

He probably played EUII with inflation turned off.