What's the Languish perspective on Gen. Petraeus?

[Eddie Teach]

Remind me what the Seebrew clause is please.

I need to fully formalize the LANGUISH DRINKING GAME.

But here is the draft rule:

Siege mentions Obama acting like a dictator( or Nixonian) -1 drink
Siege posts a conspiracy theory - 1 drink

You stick to that rule, you're gonna end up needing to apologize to Josq for all the alkie comments. 

[Ed Anger]

Remind me what the Seebrew clause is please.

I need to fully formalize the LANGUISH DRINKING GAME.

But here is the draft rule:

Siege mentions Obama acting like a dictator( or Nixonian) -1 drink
Siege posts a conspiracy theory - 1 drink

You stick to that rule, you're gonna end up needing to apologize to Josq for all the alkie comments. 

I need a new liver.

[11B4V]

you will

[crazy canuck]

Remind me what the Seebrew clause is please.

I need to fully formalize the LANGUISH DRINKING GAME.

But here is the draft rule:

Siege mentions Obama acting like a dictator( or Nixonian) -1 drink
Siege posts a conspiracy theory - 1 drink

I am going to have to get more booze

[Siege]

That's unfair. I do not talk of President Obama in a biased negative way. When he does something positive, I recognize his contribution.
Besides, you all talk shit all day as well. Defending criminal communist economic practices, that perpetuates poverty and misery, is far worst than anything I do.

You only solve poverty by raising the poor, not by lowering the rich.
The only reason poor people today have a better standard of living today than 50 years ago (cars, A/C, cellphones, PCs, etc) is because of capitalism.
Free market capitalism is what makes scarcity into abundance.

And I don't talk about conspiracy theories that much either. I haven't mentioned the Moon Hoax in 86 days.

[grumbler]

And I don't talk about conspiracy theories that much either. I haven't mentioned the Moon Hoax in 86 days.

You have to be careful with this kind of humor, Siege.  It will totally spoil your schtick.

[Valmy]

Defending criminal communist economic practices, that perpetuates poverty and misery, is far worst than anything I do.

You only solve poverty by raising the poor, not by lowering the rich.
The only reason poor people today have a better standard of living today than 50 years ago (cars, A/C, cellphones, PCs, etc) is because of capitalism.
Free market capitalism is what makes scarcity into abundance.

I just don't get what we are doing now that is different in any significant way than we ever have done things.  The only change of any sort is Obama care but it is not like free market capitalism has had much to do with health care in a long time.

[Alcibiades]

I've read a few books involving him, most recently the Gamble by Thomas Ricks......  The books and the media go a long way to glorify him, but I've heard some less than great news about him behind the scenes.


Apparently he was as 'career orientated' as could be as an officer in the army, which you military folks will know is a bad thing.  Very cut throat and took all credit for his underlings while not hesitating to throw them under the bus whilst forming a 'cult' of followers around him.

For instance, his whole strategy in Iraq was based off a colonel's success in the North of Iraq which we'll never hear or learn about since he gets all the credit.  It's really all just conjecture, but since his fall more and more is slowly leaking out.   



So who knows.   

[Razgovory]

That's unfair. I do not talk of President Obama in a biased negative way. When he does something positive, I recognize his contribution.
Besides, you all talk shit all day as well. Defending criminal communist economic practices, that perpetuates poverty and misery, is far worst than anything I do.

You only solve poverty by raising the poor, not by lowering the rich.
The only reason poor people today have a better standard of living today than 50 years ago (cars, A/C, cellphones, PCs, etc) is because of capitalism.
Free market capitalism is what makes scarcity into abundance.

And I don't talk about conspiracy theories that much either. I haven't mentioned the Moon Hoax in 86 days.

I'll bite.  If you really feel that way you should resign from the army, forgo any benefits (which are "socialist" in nature and was enacted by fellow "socialists") and leave the country or go into the private sector.  If Obama is actually the tyrant you say he is, you staying in the army only aids and abets him.  Unless you are willing to move against the the President in which case you are a traitor and unworthy of your uniform.  So which one is is Siege, are you a traitor, or a coward?

[Admiral Yi]

:chugs whole bottle:

[Malthus]

I've read a few books involving him, most recently the Gamble by Thomas Ricks......  The books and the media go a long way to glorify him, but I've heard some less than great news about him behind the scenes.


Apparently he was as 'career orientated' as could be as an officer in the army, which you military folks will know is a bad thing.  Very cut throat and took all credit for his underlings while not hesitating to throw them under the bus whilst forming a 'cult' of followers around him.

For instance, his whole strategy in Iraq was based off a colonel's success in the North of Iraq which we'll never hear or learn about since he gets all the credit.  It's really all just conjecture, but since his fall more and more is slowly leaking out.   



So who knows.   

Interesting stuff. 

Is this stuff you are hearing through the military grapevine?

[Razgovory]

:chugs whole bottle:

No, no, you are suppose to hit yourself.

[Valmy]

:chugs whole bottle:

[Valmy]

Apparently he was as 'career orientated' as could be as an officer in the army, which you military folks will know is a bad thing.  Very cut throat and took all credit for his underlings while not hesitating to throw them under the bus whilst forming a 'cult' of followers around him.

For instance, his whole strategy in Iraq was based off a colonel's success in the North of Iraq which we'll never hear or learn about since he gets all the credit.  It's really all just conjecture, but since his fall more and more is slowly leaking out.   

Sounds like most great generals.

[Berkut]

Yeah, I am not sure you ever succeed in a largely peacetime (meaning non-total war army where there are a lot more upper level officers than there are combat slots for them), professional army like the US Army without stepping on a lot of toes and making a lot of enemies on the way up.

My personal opinion on Patreus won't really be influenced by some people coming out with nasty books about what a jerk he was - I just assume that to be true to begin with.