India re-instates colonial law to criminalize homosexuality. Blame the British!

Started by Syt, December 13, 2013, 05:31:57 AM

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Syt

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/12/gay-sex-bans-one-of-the-british-empires-most-enduring-legacies/282307/

QuoteGay Sex Bans: One of the British Empire's Most Enduring Legacies

When India's supreme court effectively re-banned gay sex on Wednesday, it set aside the ruling of one of its own high courts in favor of a law imposed on India by its British occupiers in 1861. That means it has now re-joined 75 other countries that explicitly punish gay sex with imprisonment. Here's a look:



What do many of these countries have in common? More than half were former British colonies:



In fact, the law that India's supreme court just upheld is one of the most resilient relics of the British Empire. Known as Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code, it imposed Victorian values on what colonial rulers viewed as unpardonable tolerance toward homosexuality throughout their empire. The British instituted versions of Section 377 in colonies all over the world. India's ruling on Wednesday brings the tally to 42 out of 52 British Commonwealth countries in which the law is still on the books.

But was it just the British? You might notice that a lot of the other countries from the map above where homosexuality is illegal were French colonies:



And many Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish and Belgian ex-colonies have high penalties for gay sex too. However, in these cases colonialism isn't the culprit. Nearly all of the non-British former European colonies with stiff penalties for homosexual relations instituted them after independence.

That's probably because the French Revolution banned religious courts, which had previously handled sodomy. This policy spread to the Netherlands in 1811 when France invaded the country. Throughout the 1800s, Spain, Portugal, Belgium and Italy all decriminalized sodomy, as Douglas E. Sanders, a professor emeritus at the University of British Columbia, explains.

A more obvious factor keeping homosexuality illegal in many of these countries is Islam. Take for instance the countries that punish gay sex with death: Mauritania, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Yemen, and parts of Nigeria and Somalia. Some—Nigeria, Sudan and Somalia—inherited British colonial anti-gay laws. But they too instituted the death penalty long after independence—most in the last 40 years—in line with Islamic sharia law. Many of the other 76 countries with severe anti-gay laws are also Islamic states.

India, however, isn't. And before the British invasion, it was much more tolerant of homosexuality. So why would India and so many other ex-colonial countries cling so tightly to the moral whims of Victorian Englishmen that were never their own?

One reason might be that morality codes give governments a way to build a national identity around shared values, often as a foil to permissive Western countries. But a more prosaic one is that anti-gay laws are also a handy way to fortify state control (as is now happening in Russia).

What's more, they always have been. Section 377 originated from a 1536 English law instituted by Henry VIII. Legally speaking, it shifted the law from church courts to secular ones. In practice, it let Henry accuse Catholics of rampant sodomy, sullying the Papacy's divine authority, argues Sanders. That turned out to be sufficient pretext for Henry to justify seizing monastic properties, claiming a huge portion of England's landed wealth for the state.
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Sheilbh

Let's bomb Russia!

Eddie Teach

Well, I'm glad to know that now it'd be illegal for a man or group of men to rape me in India.
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Josquius

:bleeding:
The blame the British angle on this one is just fucked up.
Because the British happened to rule India at a time when the world was full of ignorant fuckwits passing such laws, 66 years of Indian bigots are therefore absolved of blame?
I just hate it when backwards countries try to explain away their modern problems by finger pointing at long dead people.
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Gups

Quote from: Tyr on December 13, 2013, 06:02:32 AM
I just hate it when backwards countries try to explain away their modern problems by finger pointing at long dead people.

The Atlantic is an American magazine I thought.

Josquius

Quote from: Gups on December 13, 2013, 06:53:17 AM
Quote from: Tyr on December 13, 2013, 06:02:32 AM
I just hate it when backwards countries try to explain away their modern problems by finger pointing at long dead people.

The Atlantic is an American magazine I thought.
You also see that attitude from people in the relevant countries themselves however.
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Eddie Teach

In this case, the people in the country apparently don't see a problem. Because they're backward.
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Gups

And they aren't blaming anyone for putting in place laws they support.

Josquius

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HVC

you were the messing stuff up for a few centuries, the very least they can take out of the situation is some free "blame the UK' cards :P
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Neil

Yeah, because third-world countries that weren't colonized by the UK have a great record vis-a-vis tolerating fags.   :rolleyes:

I generally have a pretty low opinion of journalists to begin with, but this Gwynn Guilford fellow is utterly worthless.  "Surely correlation and causation must be the same thing, right?"
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Valmy

See?  The Belgian Congo wasn't that bad.  At least they installed good progressive values.
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Amusingly, some of the places with the most gay-friendly laws were *also* former British colonies/dominions - Canada, Australia, New Zealand. 
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Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on December 13, 2013, 09:59:20 AM
Amusingly, some of the places with the most gay-friendly laws were *also* former British colonies/dominions - Canada, Australia, New Zealand. 

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What irrational anti-colonial garbage that article is.  Obama would be proud.
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