Ukraine's European Revolution?

[mongers]

1. How can German military in the East/Russia, ever be considered just observers. 

When they're just observing? 

[crazy canuck]

I suppose calling a spade a spade isnt enough.  Sometimes you have to call it a Fucking Shovel.

[Jacob]

From the Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry:

[Ed Anger]

Wow. The local separatist looks like a Jezebel blogger.

[Syt]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/25/ukraine-pro-russian-separatists-european-observers-captive-slavyansk

Pro-Moscow separatists in eastern Ukraine were holding a group of European military observers in the city of Slavyansk on Friday night, claiming they had been travelling with a spy for the Kiev government.

The group was operating under the mandate of the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) and comprised four Germans, a Pole, a Dane, a Swede and a Czech officer. According to the Ukrainian interior ministry, they were being escorted by five members of the Ukrainian armed forces when their bus was seized by separatists.

The ministry said it believed they were being held in the state security service (SBU) building in Slavyansk, which is being occupied by separatists led by a militant leader, Vyacheslav Ponomarev, who has declared himself the city's mayor.

Ponomarev told journalists: "It was reported to me that among them was an employee of the Kiev secret military staff ... People who come here as observers for the European community bringing with them a real spy – that is inappropriate."

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RT and Ria Novosti mention that some OSCE observers have "gone missing" in Eastern Ukraine but otherwise neither they nor ITAR-TASS mention the story. They do keep appealing to OSCE to investigate all those detained Russian journalists in Ukraine.

[Syt]

German tabloid BILD quotes the militia leader who captured the OSCE observers that he considers them prisoners of war. He says they're investigated by his security teams, because they had no permission/mandate to conduct their supposed observer mission. They're well, but he can't say when they'll be released.

[Razgovory]

German tabloid BILD quotes the militia leader who captured the OSCE observers that he considers them prisoners of war. He says they're investigated by his security teams, because they had no permission/mandate to conduct their supposed observer mission. They're well, but he can't say when they'll be released.

Putin would probably be unhappy that his guys have just declared war on the OSCE member states, if for no other reason then they just inadvertently declared war on Russia.

[The Brain]

From the Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry:

Rude behavior, xenophobic. Avoids constructive conversation. Can we invite Putin's Tourist to Languish?

[Admiral Yi]

That's a great fucking graphic Yakie.

I imagine you as a fine arts guy can appreciate it.

[Syt]

OSCE say the captured Germans and others are actually not part of the OSCE mission but are there by invitation of the Ukrainian government.

[Tamas]

OSCE say the captured Germans and others are actually not part of the OSCE mission but are there by invitation of the Ukrainian government.

This really is a chaotic mess. I am not sure I understand how a German and Czech and etc. military officer can go, pretend to be OSCE, and hope to return to his career back home. WTF is this? Or is the OSCE abandoning them because they got blackmailed by Russian secret service? Or what?

Can we nuke the area from orbit? At this point, that is the only way to be sure.

[mongers]

OSCE say the captured Germans and others are actually not part of the OSCE mission but are there by invitation of the Ukrainian government.

So in a way they are sorta spying on the East Ukrainians ? 

[Iormlund]

OSCE say the captured Germans and others are actually not part of the OSCE mission but are there by invitation of the Ukrainian government.

So in a way they are sorta spying on the East Ukrainians ? 

They were travelling with their military IDs. I doubt they are there in a covert capacity.

[Jacob]

That's a great fucking graphic Yakie.

I imagine you as a fine arts guy can appreciate it.

I'm totally appreciating it, and I thought you guys might too

[derspiess]

Rude behavior, xenophobic. Avoids constructive conversation. Can we invite Putin's Tourist to Languish?

Languish is xenophilic.