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Started by Sheilbh, November 21, 2013, 05:24:43 PM

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Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on November 21, 2013, 06:45:34 PM
11B4 doesn't have a side, so he can't win.  Of course, he can still lose.

I already stated my side.  :P
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

See, lynchings have tapered off. That's good.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Ideologue

Quote from: Ed Anger on November 21, 2013, 05:39:56 PM
I'll look in the Best Buy DVD section.

Too expensive.  You're thinking like an Elite.
Kinemalogue
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Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Ideologue

Anyway, while I applaud the dropping of the lawyer overproduction factoid, it's clear the author has no idea what's actually happening in legal education, and the idea that I (or most J.D.s) may be considered "elite" or ever had serious aspirations to the level of, say, a Malthus or garbon, is overstated.  We simply wanted to join the middle class--or rejoin it, in my case, given my parents' standard of living.

DID NOT WORK OUT.

It's a mild but crucial mischaracterization.  And this is the issue for many Millennials--not unreasonable greed on our parts as individuals, but a society that has no place for us at any level but the bottom (if that), alienated even from each other by our instability, economic languish, and the loss of confidence and mental health that comes from taking stock of our lives and failing to reconcile that inventory with our parents', school's, and society's empty promises.

It doesn't help that we lie to each other fucking constantly about how good we're doing in a socially pathological case of "fake it till you make it," and value the badges of middle class prosperity as much our parents did, even though for the most part we'll never have them.
Kinemalogue
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Admiral Yi

I think you're being a bit disingenuous Log.  People generally don't go to law school with the aspiration of making median salary.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 21, 2013, 08:45:24 PM
I think you're being a bit disingenuous Log.  People generally don't go to law school with the aspiration of making median salary.
Median salary isn't the same as being middle class. I think most people go to law school with the aspiration of being upper middle class.

And there's a significant minority who go without even expecting that. They want, desperately, to work in criminal law or family law and they pay's shit.
Let's bomb Russia!

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on November 21, 2013, 07:20:46 PM
I already stated my side.  :P

Between protecting the Elites and the inevitable Post-Antibioticalypse, you better have your riot and repel gear strapped on tight.


Admiral Yi

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 21, 2013, 09:20:29 PM
Median salary isn't the same as being middle class. I think most people go to law school with the aspiration of being upper middle class.

It's a good approximation.  I agree about upper middle class, which incidentally is around where elite status begins.  And it's certainly not the first rung on the middle class ladder that the Log was intimating.

fhdz

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 21, 2013, 09:25:03 PM
the Log

He's Log! He's Log! He's big, he's heavy, he's wood! He's Log! He's Log! He's better than bad; he's good!
and the horse you rode in on

PDH

Somebody's been sampling the malbec again tonight.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 21, 2013, 09:23:42 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 21, 2013, 07:20:46 PM
I already stated my side.  :P

Between protecting the Elites and the inevitable Post-Antibioticalypse, you better have your riot and repel gear strapped on tight.



Remember,

"Front Toward Enemy"
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

fhdz

Quote from: PDH on November 21, 2013, 09:27:12 PM
Somebody's been sampling the malbec again tonight.

No, just the Ren & Stimpy.
and the horse you rode in on

Capetan Mihali

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 21, 2013, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 21, 2013, 08:45:24 PM
I think you're being a bit disingenuous Log.  People generally don't go to law school with the aspiration of making median salary.
And there's a significant minority who go without even expecting that. They want, desperately, to work in criminal law [...] and they pay's shit.

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