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The World Is Misreading Barack Obama

Started by jimmy olsen, November 08, 2011, 06:25:33 PM

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Razgovory

I think it has more to do with terrorism not being considered such a big deal.  Before terrorism was considered a crime.  After 9/11 GWB declared war on terrorism.  While that is absurd, it did change perception of terrorism.  I suspect that more Americans have been killed by terrorist road-side bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan then Americans who died on 9/11, still it's perceived differently. If someone blew up an airliner or something in the US in say, the spring of 2004, GWB would have easily lost the election.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

Quote from: Ideologue on November 08, 2011, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 08, 2011, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 08, 2011, 07:33:02 PM
I'm not really expecting it. I'd say there's a 40% chance it happens.

Then you should be happy with a 3/2 bet.  To make it irresistable I'll offer 7/4.  How much would you like to wager?

How about the collapse of the PRC before 2030?  (Ungovernable mess still recognized as a coherent government, ala Chiang's China, still counts as collapse.)

Also, uninterrupted Democratic presidencies till 2024.  I'll go 1/1 on that.

YI PLEASE DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS THREAD. :P
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Admiral Yi

Excellent work Ide.  I will adjust my sig accordingly.

I'm fucked.

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Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on November 15, 2011, 08:42:44 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2011, 08:35:56 AM
Different situation.  A successful terrorist attack on Obama's watch would seem like vindication of Republican policies.  Bush kept us safe (as he was always so fond of saying), and wishy-washy Obama let the terrorists hit again. It may not make sense, but that's how it would play out politically.
Agreed.  I just don't see Republican voters getting behind Obama the way Democratic voters got behind Bush.  Some people just strike me as much more willing to put politics aside for the sake of the country than others, and this willingness is not equally distributed on the political spectrum.  I think Bush got the 9/11 bump because he was a Republican, and because he wasn't in the office long.


Gee wiz Dguller, Looks like we were wrong.  Republicans did stand behind President Obama after the Benghazi attack and the Boston attacks.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

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