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Started by jimmy olsen, November 08, 2011, 06:25:33 PM

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DGuller

#15
November 08, 2011, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 08, 2011, 07:58:17 PM
Yeah, but we're never gonna meet in real life, and I ain't wiring him money.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque

EDIT:  This will address Yi's curiosity as well.

Neil

#16
November 08, 2011, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 08, 2011, 07:35:47 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 08, 2011, 07:33:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 08, 2011, 07:13:52 PM
I would be very, very surprised.  Essentially a mathematical impossibility.
Why are you so certain?
I'm not really expecting it. I'd say there's a 40% chance it happens.
Political ideology.  Republican dogma says Democrats can't be tough, therefore Obama can't bomb Iran.
Part of the problem is that the last tough Democrat was LBJ.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Habbaku

#18
November 08, 2011, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 08, 2011, 07:58:17 PM
Yeah, but we're never gonna meet in real life, and I ain't wiring him money.

:huh:  http://www.paypal.com
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

DGuller

#19
November 08, 2011, 08:15:57 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 08, 2011, 08:07:35 PM
Part of the problem is that the last tough Democrat was LBJ.
:yes: How can you not admire a president who regularly whips out his, eh, never mind.

Razgovory

#20
November 08, 2011, 08:16:55 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 08, 2011, 07:56:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 08, 2011, 07:50:20 PM
Maybe you aren't as Dogmatic.

You consider yourself blessed with a dogma-free mind, don't you Raz?  What do you put the chances at?

Nope.  I'm not a betting man.  Last time I had a bet with you, I won though.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#21
November 08, 2011, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 08, 2011, 08:16:55 PM
You consider yourself blessed with a dogma-free mind, don't you Raz?  What do you put the chances at?

Nope.  I'm not a betting man.  Last time I had a bet with you, I won though.
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If you read the two posts above this one, you'll see that your answer doesn't match my question.

Razgovory

#22
November 08, 2011, 08:21:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 08, 2011, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 08, 2011, 08:16:55 PM
You consider yourself blessed with a dogma-free mind, don't you Raz?  What do you put the chances at?

Nope.  I'm not a betting man.  Last time I had a bet with you, I won though.

If you read the two posts above this one, you'll see that your answer doesn't match my question.
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Wait what?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#23
November 08, 2011, 08:22:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 08, 2011, 08:21:59 PM
Wait what?

"What do you put the chances at" is not a yes or no question.

Razgovory

#24
November 08, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
Oh, well you messed up the formatting so I was confused.  "Nope" was to answer your first question. 

QuoteYou consider yourself blessed with a dogma-free mind, don't you Raz?

The answer was "Nope".
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

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November 08, 2011, 08:30:40 PM Last Edit: November 08, 2011, 08:32:37 PM by Ideologue
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 08, 2011, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 08, 2011, 07:33:02 PM
I'm not really expecting it. I'd say there's a 40% chance it happens.

Then you should be happy with a 3/2 bet.  To make it irresistable I'll offer 7/4.  How much would you like to wager?

How about the collapse of the PRC before 2030?  (Ungovernable mess still recognized as a coherent government, ala Chiang's China, still counts as collapse.)

Also, uninterrupted Democratic presidencies till 2024.  I'll go 1/1 on that.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Admiral Yi

#27
November 08, 2011, 08:33:22 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on November 08, 2011, 08:30:40 PM
How about the collapse of the PRC before 2030?  (Ungovernable mess still recognized as a coherent government still counts as collapse.)

Too long.

QuoteAlso, uninterrupted Democratic presidencies till 2024.  I'll go 1/1 on that.

I'm in.  How much?

Razz: how does your dogmatic mind assess the chances of a strike by Obama against Iran?

Ideologue

#28
November 08, 2011, 08:36:56 PM Last Edit: November 08, 2011, 08:38:27 PM by Ideologue
Quote from: YiToo long.

Hm. :huh:

QuoteI'm in.  How much?

$100, plus, if I win, an admission by you I was always right about everything; if you win, I will acknowledge your pet names for things make sense.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Admiral Yi

#29
November 08, 2011, 08:38:03 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on November 08, 2011, 08:36:56 PM
$100, plus, if I win, an admission by you I was always right about everything; if you win, I will acknowledge your pet names for things make sense.

No can do.
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