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Started by 11B4V, November 21, 2013, 12:41:38 PM

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11B4V

November 21, 2013, 12:41:38 PM
Just announced.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

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Kleves

#1
November 21, 2013, 12:46:49 PM
Take that, China!  :menace:




Edit: Disappointed.  :(
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DGuller

#2
November 21, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
Good.  If you get elected, you deserve to be able to govern, whether you're a Democrat or Republican.

MadImmortalMan

#3
November 21, 2013, 01:26:30 PM
Figured it would be inevitable. Kinda diminishes all the fury we had before over the threat of implementing it. We've gone from nuclear option is Hitler to meh.  :P
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

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derspiess

#4
November 21, 2013, 01:42:05 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 21, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
Good.  If you get elected, you deserve to be able to govern, whether you're a Democrat or Republican.

Yeah, you say that now.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Sheilbh

#5
November 21, 2013, 01:47:09 PM
Good.

Am I right that it's for nominations except for those to the Supreme Court? That seems a decent position.
Let's bomb Russia!

Admiral Yi

#6
November 21, 2013, 01:48:26 PM
Dont' think there's ever been a hold put on a SC nominee.

Sheilbh

#7
November 21, 2013, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 21, 2013, 01:48:26 PM
Dont' think there's ever been a hold put on a SC nominee.
But because of their importance you should be able to filibuster SC nominees. I'm less convinced for judges lower down the line and think President's should have huge discretion in shaping their own administration.
Let's bomb Russia!

Razgovory

#8
November 21, 2013, 02:14:10 PM
Little late.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

mongers

#9
November 21, 2013, 02:16:27 PM
Still no missile trails or bomber contrails here.  :(
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KRonn

#10
November 21, 2013, 02:20:16 PM
I don't like this as it takes too much away from a minority party, which could be the Dem party next time. I know it's frustrating at times and it works for/against both parties, but it's also like a check/balance as well.

jimmy olsen

#11
November 21, 2013, 05:27:14 PM
The filibuster was clearly being abused so this is a good thing.
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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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DGuller

#12
November 21, 2013, 06:23:22 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 21, 2013, 01:42:05 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 21, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
Good.  If you get elected, you deserve to be able to govern, whether you're a Democrat or Republican.

Yeah, you say that now.
If Republicans get the House, the Senate, and the presidency in 2016, they deserve to be able to implement their agenda.  The voters would get what they deserve as well.

Razgovory

#13
November 21, 2013, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 21, 2013, 01:42:05 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 21, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
Good.  If you get elected, you deserve to be able to govern, whether you're a Democrat or Republican.

Yeah, you say that now.

So you are of the opinion that the elected party shouldn't be allowed to govern?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

KRonn

#14
November 21, 2013, 06:55:46 PM
Some years ago when Obama and Biden were Senators  the Republicans were threatening to pass this same thing. These two as Senators, and other Dems, ranted and raved against the error of passing such a rule. They were very adamant of the negatives of it.

Have the Dems really thought this through? Yeah, they can now pass more stuff without bipartisan support but they'll rue the day when there's a Repub President and Congress and bills and appointments they don't like are slammed through. There will be no minority voice, or it will be much diminished. Like a banana republic or something.
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