DNA Sequencing Megathread! Neanderthals, Denisovans and other ancient DNA!

[Tonitrus]

The Comanche were harder to get close to.

[derspiess]

My ancestors liked to fuck the natives.

Mine didn't seem to.

I don't think mine came in contact with the natives much.

I'm pretty sure mine had some "contact".  They got into Virginia and Ohio pretty early. 

[Caliga]

Probably contact in the sense of stealing land, killing, infecting with smallpox, etc.

Early colonial settlers didn't spend much time having children with the Cherokee, despite what so many rednecks down here seem to think about their heritage.  Generally I assume people who claim Cherokee heritage really have slave ancestry and their ancestors were ashamed of it, so they lied and the truth was eventually forgotten.

[Valmy]

I'm pretty sure mine had some "contact".  They got into Virginia and Ohio pretty early. 

They might have seen them and had some unfriendly interactions but I meant they do not seem the types to trade and live beside them. The sorts of activities that lead to one having children with them

[Valmy]

Probably contact in the sense of stealing land, killing, infecting with smallpox, etc.

Early colonial settlers didn't spend much time having children with the Cherokee, despite what so many rednecks down here seem to think about their heritage.  Generally I assume people who claim Cherokee heritage really have slave ancestry and their ancestors were ashamed of it, so they lied and the truth was eventually forgotten.

Interesting because black southerners did the same thing to try to hide their white ancestry.

[Caliga]

They might have seen them and had some unfriendly interactions but I meant they do not seem the types to trade and live beside them. The sorts of activities that lead to one having children with them

There were most definitely unions between whites and Native Americans, but my understanding is that most of the time these individuals resided with the native tribes, and their descendants probably either went extinct with the rest of the tribe or moved onto the reservations.

That said, I believe there's a Spanish noble family that is directly descended from Monteczuma.

[Valmy]

They might have seen them and had some unfriendly interactions but I meant they do not seem the types to trade and live beside them. The sorts of activities that lead to one having children with them

There were most definitely unions between whites and Native Americans, but my understanding is that most of the time these individuals resided with the native tribes, and their descendants probably either went extinct with the rest of the tribe or moved onto the reservations.

That said, I believe there's a Spanish noble family that is directly descended from Monteczuma.

Spanish and French colonies are a whole different story when it comes to breeding with the locals

[Caliga]

Spanish and French colonies are a whole different story when it comes to breeding with the locals

Well the French tried to maintain friendly trade relations with the Canadian Natives, hence the Metis.  Friendliness leads to pounding as you mentioned earlier.

In the case of the Spanish, I think they simply had no choice... most of the immigrants from Spain were men so if you wanted to get laid... well...

[HVC]

Spanish and French colonies are a whole different story when it comes to breeding with the locals

Well the French tried to maintain friendly trade relations with the Canadian Natives, hence the Metis.  Friendliness leads to pounding as you mentioned earlier.

In the case of the Spanish, I think they simply had no choice... most of the immigrants from Spain were men so if you wanted to get laid... well...

Keeping separate from the natives was more of a English thing (and I guess protestant. did the dutch mix with Africans and Asians?). Everyone else banged in their colonies

[Caliga]

The Dutch pounded the natives in Indonesia.  Eddie van Halen is of partial Indonesian ancestry.   No idea how common that was though.

[Valmy]

Keeping separate from the natives was more of a English thing (and I guess protestant. did the dutch mix with Africans and Asians?). Everyone else banged in their colonies

Generally true but for whatever reason the East India Company had a policy of encouraging their employees to marry Indian women. So you get the Anglo-Indians.

That seems to be the only instance of that sort of thing in the British Empire though. I have never heard of an Anglo-Malay or Anglo-Chinese community in Singapore or Hong Kong for example.

[Maximus]

Shocking.  A native Kentuckian who thinks he is part Cherokee.  Ed has that in common with 99% of the hicks who grew up here.

It's always either Cherokee or Blackfoot, or both. Those Blackfoot sure got around.

[Caliga]

I've also heard a few people claim Sioux ancestry.

I do find it interesting that the most commonly-claimed ancestral tribe is also one of the best known.  I wonder if there are cases of people with legit ancestry, but from another tribe, but their ancestors ended up forgetting which one so just said 'Cherokee' because in the south, the Cherokee are thought to be OSSUM.

[Valmy]

The Creeks and Chickasaw considered the Cherokee a bunch of sluts.

[Caliga]

The Creeks and Chickasaw considered the Cherokee a bunch of sluts.

I believe the Creek were originally more numerous than the Cherokee, but you want to know why nobody ever claims Creek ancestry?  Because they're gone.  Lots of hicks vacation in the Smokies where one can find the.... Cherokee Reservation (and Casino!  )

I guess if hicks enjoyed vacationing in Oklahoma, more of them might claim Creek ancestry?