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Historical Accuracy in TV and Film

Started by jimmy olsen, October 31, 2013, 12:02:38 AM

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Do you demand Historical Accuracy in the TV shows and Movies you watch?

Yes! 100% If it's a movie is about the Illiad it has to be in Archaic Greek with subtitles!
3 (7.5%)
No, I don't care about it at all. Xena: Warrior Princess is the height of historical fiction.
7 (17.5%)
As long as there's nothing too glaringly wrong, it's fine.
30 (75%)

Total Members Voted: 39

Siege

Quote from: Maximus on October 31, 2013, 12:07:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 31, 2013, 09:58:43 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 31, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 31, 2013, 09:48:05 AM
I have long since given up on expecting historical accuracy on the History Channel, let alone a historical movie.

What? Now you'll tell me that Ancient Aliens is not historical accurate?

It's like the opposite of history.

herstory?

Whoa, I never thought of it that way.

History = His story, as in somebody else story/history.

Very interesting point of view.



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"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

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lustindarkness

Quote from: Siege on October 31, 2013, 01:32:55 PM
Quote from: Maximus on October 31, 2013, 12:07:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 31, 2013, 09:58:43 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 31, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 31, 2013, 09:48:05 AM
I have long since given up on expecting historical accuracy on the History Channel, let alone a historical movie.

What? Now you'll tell me that Ancient Aliens is not historical accurate?

It's like the opposite of history.

herstory?

Whoa, I never thought of it that way.

History = His story, as in somebody else story/history.

Very interesting point of view.



Deep.
Grand Duke of Lurkdom

Siege



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


The Brain

Quote from: viper37 on October 31, 2013, 01:32:16 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 31, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
I'm not anal about historical accuracy. Most movies do not try to be historically accurate. The Seventh Seal doesn't try to be historically accurate and it's an awesome movie.
most historical movies are based on historical novels wich themselves aren't historical... yet, everyone bitches about the movies.  Braveheart is a good example of this.  The movie is based on the book and is quite faithful to the book.  Alas, it hasn't much to do with the real history.

No one has read the book.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Agelastus on October 31, 2013, 10:10:26 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 31, 2013, 10:08:45 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on October 31, 2013, 10:07:51 AM

For example, in a film where they portray the English as being generally stupid, arrogant and borderline evil...they filmed the battle scenes for Stirling Bridge with no bridge in sight.


And?

And? :huh:

And what? :huh:

Do you only read the first half of a post and then comment?

What's wrong with depicting the English as stupid and evil?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Scipio

Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 31, 2013, 05:53:51 AM
So has anyone seen that European Borgia series? Is it has good as he says?
I liked it better than The Borgias, and so did my wife.
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-Jose Canseco

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dps

Quote from: Razgovory on October 31, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on October 31, 2013, 10:10:26 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 31, 2013, 10:08:45 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on October 31, 2013, 10:07:51 AM

For example, in a film where they portray the English as being generally stupid, arrogant and borderline evil...they filmed the battle scenes for Stirling Bridge with no bridge in sight.


And?

And? :huh:

And what? :huh:

Do you only read the first half of a post and then comment?

What's wrong with depicting the English as stupid and evil?

The problem with the way they did it in the movie is that the stupidity becomes an informed attribute--the movie didn't remember the mantra, "Show, don't tell".

Agelastus

Quote from: Razgovory on October 31, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on October 31, 2013, 10:10:26 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 31, 2013, 10:08:45 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on October 31, 2013, 10:07:51 AM

For example, in a film where they portray the English as being generally stupid, arrogant and borderline evil...they filmed the battle scenes for Stirling Bridge with no bridge in sight.


And?

And? :huh:

And what? :huh:

Do you only read the first half of a post and then comment?

What's wrong with depicting the English as stupid and evil?

Oh.

I thought you were referring to the Bridge.

You approve of them portraying us as arrogant, then? I'll have to remember that for the future.

[Note to self, Razgovory does not mind English arrogance - lay it on with a trowel when replying to his posts in future.]

As for the two words you've commented on...

Given my opinion of a vast chunk of my fellow countrymen I'll refrain from commenting regarding "stupid".

And as I don't feel like getting dragged into a pointless political argument over whatever less-than-completely-reputable part of our history you'd drag up to suggest there's nothing wrong with the "evil" part I'll refrain from commenting on that as well.
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The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

Razgovory

I was okay with Braveheart, I thought it was crap as history but as a film it was okay.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

No it was not fucking OK. It was horrible. I had to quit after 10 minutes.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: The Brain on October 31, 2013, 07:04:08 PM
No it was not fucking OK. It was horrible. I had to quit after 10 minutes.

Then all you know is that the first 10 minutes were horrible. Lots of movies overcome that.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

The Brain

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 31, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 31, 2013, 07:04:08 PM
No it was not fucking OK. It was horrible. I had to quit after 10 minutes.

Then all you know is that the first 10 minutes were horrible. Lots of movies overcome that.

Braveheart did not. It is known.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Admiral Yi

I thought it always danced on the cliff edge of horrible without quite plunging over.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

PDH

It was horrible, bad awful.  It sucked more than the suckiest suck that ever sucked.  It was so bad that my grandfather who had two strokes was watching it and demanded the channel be changed to anything else.  The only redeeming factor that it had was that it ended, but that was an eternity too late.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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