HOI2: Armageddon and Deus Vult?

[vinraith]

Being in something of a historical strategy gaming mood I find myself wondering whether the newer expansion packs for HoI2 and CK are worth my while. I have HoI2 and Doomsday, and base CK.

Are the new expansion packs worthwhile? Are they well patched? Are there any interesting mods I should be aware of? Oh, and can HoI2 run in widescreen (I know there's a trick for CK, though I think I've lost the link in my latest HD crash)? Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

[ulmont]

Being in something of a historical strategy gaming mood I find myself wondering whether the newer expansion packs for HoI2 and CK are worth my while. I have HoI2 and Doomsday, and base CK.

Are the new expansion packs worthwhile?

Deus Vult is definitely worth it.  Armageddon is marginal.

[Norgy]

I agree with ulmont.

Armageddon adds little substantial, except "brigades" to ships and "easier" production (as you can produce divisions+brigades together).

Apart from that, it's a alt-hist MP mod that will bring tears of anger to your eyes.

[Ed Anger]

Apart from that, it's a alt-hist MP mod that will bring tears of anger to your eyes.

I always wondered "was that the best they could come up with?"

I mean, they could have done an Nazi's vs Imperial Japan for control of the world. That would have been uber cool.

[Norgy]

IT HAS TO BE TEH BALANCED!!!! 200 IC FOR EVERYONE!11

[saskganesh]

DV is certainly worth 10 bucks. get the 0ctober beta patch applied after it's installed.

[ulmont]

IT HAS TO BE TEH BALANCED!!!! 200 IC FOR EVERYONE!11

Except it failed miserably.  The Oceanic power (Australia etc., I forget) gets totally boned by the no land-connection manpower penalty, and good luck with anybody finding their resources.

[vinraith]

Thanks for the info. Armageddon's $5, Deus Vult is $15 (I missed the $10 sale for CK + DV, sadly).

Has there been more than one beta patch for DV? Any good mods?

[garbon]

TASS and DVIP are the two main mods.  They both do similar things although because of the scarcity of resources (e.g. culture and country tags), both largely follow their creators' (one guy runs each) visions/prioritizing.  I don't actually run either, so I can't recommend one.

[vinraith]

Ok,  I also own Vicky and Revolutions, what's the general consensus on VIP?

[The Minsky Moment]

I recommend VIP.  It does somewhat straightjacket the world in event chains, but it helps avoid wildly ahistorical outcomes.  And the player has freedom to operate.  The split of British India is pretty essential to avoid a massive red tide of endless British infantry.  The economy is better balanced IMO.

[vinraith]

I recommend VIP.  It does somewhat straightjacket the world in event chains, but it helps avoid wildly ahistorical outcomes.  And the player has freedom to operate.  The split of British India is pretty essential to avoid a massive red tide of endless British infantry.  The economy is better balanced IMO.

Sounds good. I see that I'm supposed to install 0.1, then 0.2, then the hotfixes, but the link to 0.1 appears to be dead. Anyone know where I can find it? Also, do I need OHgamer's hotfixes for Vicky:R is I'm planning to run VIP:R?

[The Minsky Moment]

Sounds good. I see that I'm supposed to install 0.1, then 0.2, then the hotfixes, but the link to 0.1 appears to be dead. Anyone know where I can find it? Also, do I need OHgamer's hotfixes for Vicky:R is I'm planning to run VIP:R?

If you are running VIP, I don't think you need the hotfixes for vanilla revolutions.  Just follow the install order in OHgamer's sig.  If the link to 0.1 at the Paradox site doesn't work, you can try the dedicated mod site (also in the signature).

[PDH]

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[garbon]

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