Remembering the Yom Kippur War, 40 Years Ago.

Started by mongers, October 08, 2013, 07:00:50 PM

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mongers

October 08, 2013, 07:00:50 PM
I though someone would post about the 40th anniversary of Yom Kippur War.

Al Jazeera had an interesting documentary about the first week, part of series telling the story of the war, with some rather interesting 'talking heads' from both sides. Also plenty of archive footage, which has been telecined rather well:

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2013/10/remembering-war-october-2013107122612930786.html

This first part is still airing today, the 9th and the 2nd part is available from the 10th.

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11B4V

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October 09, 2013, 12:28:13 AM
Probably the most militarily creative the Egyptians have been in 3000 years. At least for the first couple of days.  :P 
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October 09, 2013, 06:04:58 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 09, 2013, 12:28:13 AM
Probably the most militarily creative the Egyptians have been in 3000 years. At least for the first couple of days.  :P

i beg to differ, the idea that egyptians don't know that water plus soil = mud and the mud flows downhill is preposterous ;)

While I agree their missile defenses were inventive. The most creative they had been militarily is pretending that the 6 day war didn't happen and that they won the yom kippur war.
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derspiess

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October 09, 2013, 10:40:24 AM
I was alive but I don't remember the Yom Kippur War.  I remember the 1982 Lebanon War and initially rooting for the Syrians because of my uncle.  He & my granddad helped set me straight on that  :Embarrass:
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October 10, 2013, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 09, 2013, 12:28:13 AM
Probably the most militarily creative the Egyptians have been in 3000 years. At least for the first couple of days.  :P
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October 10, 2013, 10:52:01 AM
That would be more Circassian or Abkhazian military creativity.
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October 10, 2013, 10:53:25 AM Last Edit: October 10, 2013, 10:55:29 AM by Queequeg
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 10, 2013, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 09, 2013, 12:28:13 AM
Probably the most militarily creative the Egyptians have been in 3000 years. At least for the first couple of days.  :P
What about the Mamelukes?
Tatars and Circassians.
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Queequeg

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October 10, 2013, 10:54:56 AM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on October 10, 2013, 10:52:01 AM
That would be more Circassian or Abkhazian military creativity.
A lot of them were primarily or only Turcophones.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
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October 10, 2013, 11:01:35 AM
Don't forget Albanian military creativity.  ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt
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Queequeg

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October 10, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
Ya, I was going to post Ali but then remembered that he was Albanian. Egypt sucks.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Queequeg

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October 10, 2013, 01:47:29 PM
That said, Ali's involvement in Greece would have been near-genocidal.  Though, oddly, the fear of slaughter by Egyptian intervention finally stirred European intervention in the Greek War of Independence. 
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Siege

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October 11, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2013, 10:40:24 AM
I was alive but I don't remember the Yom Kippur War.  I remember the 1982 Lebanon War and initially rooting for the Syrians because of my uncle.  He & my granddad helped set me straight on that  :Embarrass:

Elaborate.


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mongers

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October 11, 2013, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: Siege on October 11, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2013, 10:40:24 AM
I was alive but I don't remember the Yom Kippur War.  I remember the 1982 Lebanon War and initially rooting for the Syrians because of my uncle.  He & my granddad helped set me straight on that  :Embarrass:

Elaborate.

They're Palestinian-Americans.
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#14
October 11, 2013, 06:13:26 PM
Israel needs to fully annex Jerusalem and then establish themselves on both sides of the Jordan River.

Alarmingly, Jewish-Americans seem to be disintegrating.
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