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Occupy Wall Street Turns 2

Started by Savonarola, September 20, 2013, 05:51:06 PM

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Josephus

Not sure how a movement that pretty much fizzled out in four months can "turn two"
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

mongers

The occupiers I'm still aware of, or the few I'm still in contact with, have migrated to other things, currently chiefly the anti-fracking campaign, so in some ways they're performing the function of a rent-a-crowd. 

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

DGuller

It's a shame that a movement with a rather valid premise would up being overtaken by the easily-dismissed wackos.  The increased role of casino capitalism in our economy is a problem, and will continue being a problem until we have another wake-up call like we had in 1930ies.  Hopefully we won't have to waste tens of millions of lives this time to re-learn the lesson that some pockets full of free speech have successfully made us forget.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: DGuller on September 21, 2013, 06:29:28 PM
It's a shame that a movement with a rather valid premise would up being overtaken by the easily-dismissed wackos.  The increased role of casino capitalism in our economy is a problem, and will continue being a problem until we have another wake-up call like we had in 1930ies.  Hopefully we won't have to waste tens of millions of lives this time to re-learn the lesson that some pockets full of free speech have successfully made us forget.

I don't see how you can possibly infer that as the premise of Occupy.

CountDeMoney

Occupy won't mean anything until they figure out the proper use of explosives.  Movements tend to get taken more seriously when body counts start climbing.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
Occupy won't mean anything until they figure out the proper use of explosives.  Movements tend to get taken more seriously when body counts start climbing.

Like Al Qaeda and the Klan.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 21, 2013, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
Occupy won't mean anything until they figure out the proper use of explosives.  Movements tend to get taken more seriously when body counts start climbing.

Like Al Qaeda and the Klan.

As you saying a hijacked airliner couldn't hit a Baptist church?

Eddie Teach

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2013, 06:56:46 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 21, 2013, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
Occupy won't mean anything until they figure out the proper use of explosives.  Movements tend to get taken more seriously when body counts start climbing.

Like Al Qaeda and the Klan.

As you saying a hijacked airliner couldn't hit a Baptist church?

I don't think it would make people more receptive to their message.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Phillip V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
Occupy won't mean anything until they figure out the proper use of explosives.  Movements tend to get taken more seriously when body counts start climbing.

No. They should make proper use of hunger strikes and self-immolation.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 21, 2013, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
Occupy won't mean anything until they figure out the proper use of explosives.  Movements tend to get taken more seriously when body counts start climbing.

Like Al Qaeda and the Klan.

Or the Weather Underground and the Symbionese Liberation Army.

Admiral Yi


DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 21, 2013, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 21, 2013, 06:29:28 PM
It's a shame that a movement with a rather valid premise would up being overtaken by the easily-dismissed wackos.  The increased role of casino capitalism in our economy is a problem, and will continue being a problem until we have another wake-up call like we had in 1930ies.  Hopefully we won't have to waste tens of millions of lives this time to re-learn the lesson that some pockets full of free speech have successfully made us forget.

I don't see how you can possibly infer that as the premise of Occupy.
Wall Street is the biggest symbol of casino capitalism.  Occupiers may not have had quite the same nuanced understanding of casino capitalism and the damage it inflicts, but the instincts were right.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Phillip V on September 21, 2013, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
Occupy won't mean anything until they figure out the proper use of explosives.  Movements tend to get taken more seriously when body counts start climbing.

No. They should make proper use of hunger strikes and self-immolation.

:lol:   I doubt a Tibetan monk-b-que would even be noticed on Wall Street.  Just another day in the Big Apple.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 21, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 21, 2013, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
Occupy won't mean anything until they figure out the proper use of explosives.  Movements tend to get taken more seriously when body counts start climbing.

Like Al Qaeda and the Klan.

Or the Weather Underground and the Symbionese Liberation Army.

Remind me how many people died in Weather Underground attacks.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: DGuller on September 21, 2013, 07:47:41 PM
Wall Street is the biggest symbol of casino capitalism.  Occupiers may not have had quite the same nuanced understanding of casino capitalism and the damage it inflicts, but the instincts were right.

That's about as reasonable as saying the starting premise of Occupy Wall Street was a visceral hatred of suspenders.

I judge their beliefs by what they said, printed on signs, and wrote.  They thought their student loan loads were really bad.  They thought their inability to get cool jobs was really bad.  They thought banks were really bad.  They thought unequal income distribution was really bad.