The Government Shutdown Countdown Lowdown MEGATHREAD

[CountDeMoney]

Wait until they win again in Jan and Feb.

They WILL stop the anti-Christ and the worse law in the history of all mankind.
Oh yes, they will.

[Grey Fox]

Maybe managing to shut the government down for two weeks WAS the victory.

If the goal with shutting down parts of the government was

1.  Increasing running costs even more than not shutting it down (furloughed employees still paid but work not done)
2.  Reducing tax revenues due to uncertainty in the economy
3.  Increasing government borrowing costs by raising interest rates on short term T-Bills
4.  Making the rest of the world wonder if the US is really that stable a place to park money

then I congratulate them on a stunning victory.

Their stated goal is to undermine the US federal government at every opportunity. So, yes, success.

[derspiess]

Any idea where the Republicans will go from here?

Probably take some time off, watch some film, and prep for the next shutdown

[CountDeMoney]

Any idea where the Republicans will go from here?

Probably take some time off, watch some film, and prep for the next shutdown

Lol, cant run the option from an ace backfield.  Ted needs more backs.

[The Minsky Moment]

Any idea where the Republicans will go from here?

http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/

[Razgovory]

Well she has a point.   If the Americans had not rebelled or if they had at least kept the superior form of government that is Parliamentary Democracy they would not not be in this mess.

Well if Americans had not rebelled my ancestors wouldn't have a place to flee to.

[merithyn]

Any idea where the Republicans will go from here?

http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/

Some of the comments are priceless. Like this one:

This just REEKS of L. Ron Hubbard, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Warren Jeffs, Aum Shinrikyo, and many, many other deranged lunatics who mix twisted religious fervor with socio-political separatism. This is absolute proof (among other evidence) that Glenn Beck is a certifiable nut case plagued with "Nazi Turrets" and grade-A narcism. It amazes me that his "fans" continue to wallow in his anti-government, end of the world, New World Order paranoid rants. The only thing this buffoon is good for is fodder for late night satire.

[Razgovory]

Speaking of comments I was looking through some of the comments on the Breitbart sites, where people concluded that the next logical step was to rise up rebellion, kill the city dwellers and turn them into feed for their animals.

[Sheilbh]

I do agree that the Parliamentary system is better than the one that we have.

That's why no-one ever suggests the US system for new democracies. The only country that's survived as a democracy with an equally powerful President and Legislature is the US. Chile managed it for a hundred or so years until Pinochet happened.

Normally it leads either to a presidential dictatorship, or a military coup.

Speaking of comments I was looking through some of the comments on the Breitbart sites, where people concluded that the next logical step was to rise up rebellion, kill the city dwellers and turn them into feed for their animals.

I do think that part of the change that's provoking a strong reaction on the right is from rural and small town America to a more urbanised and small city America. This touches on it:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/07/orca-meet-obama/?_r=0

David: This election was mostly about demographics or more precisely about the way demographic shifts lead to cultural and political shifts. Ronald Reagan won with an electorate that was nearly 90 percent white. Now the electorate is around 72 percent white. And the white population is different — more educated, more centered in college towns, more socially diverse, more likely to live in single-person households.

That means they are less likely to subscribe to the cowboy ethos of the rugged individual. It doesn't mean they want to return to the New Deal, but it does mean that the old Republican narrative can no longer win a majority.

Gail: I've always thought the big political division was empty places versus crowded places. People who live in crowded places just naturally appreciate how useful government is. Empty-place people don't see the point. Maybe this is the death of the empty-place vision.

She puts it a bit a strong but I think there is a division and it's another area where the demographics are changing. I also think it's an area where, again, the populist right could make more headway than the establishment right if they sort themselves out.

People focus on changing ethnicity and so on, but I think there's also demographic changes in values and culture which matters and is more difficult to measure but rural-urban is a pretty good divider.

Any idea where the Republicans will go from here?

I think the right will be looking to successfully primary McConnell, Graham, Alexander and Cochran. Four Senators from broadly Republican states who aren't Tea Partiers. It might work.

[Queequeg]

Jesus, they're ratfucking themselves. It's wonderful.

[Razgovory]

Jesus, they're ratfucking themselves. It's wonderful.

Until they turn you into feed for their animals.

[Razgovory]

Oh, and here's where I found the comments. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/16/Congress-Clears-Government-Spending-Debt-Hike

The progs will soil themselves when the time comes.
It's a good thing they eat organic crap, because when the revolution begins, agricultural production will temporarily slow down and we will need to feed them to our livestock.

It's like a right wing version of Ide.

[Queequeg]

Jesus, they're ratfucking themselves. It's wonderful.

Until they turn you into feed for their animals.

I can't think of a radical rightwing faction in history that I'm less afraid of than the Tea Party.

[Eddie Teach]

Jesus, they're ratfucking themselves. It's wonderful.

Until they turn you into feed for their animals.

I can't think of a radical rightwing faction in history that I'm less afraid of than the Tea Party.

Hassidic Jews maybe. Or the Amish.

[Queequeg]

They make Oswald Mosley look like Reinhard Heydrich.  I don't think they have any positive role to play in American politics other than fucking up the already-corrupted Republican party.