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Shooter at Washington Navy Yard kills 12

Started by jimmy olsen, September 16, 2013, 07:50:41 AM

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11B4V

Depends on whether he reported the ID missing.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Caliga

QuoteBy Monday afternoon, a portrait of Alexis had begun to emerge. He lived until recently in Fort Worth, where he was seen frequently at a Buddhist temple, meditating and helping out. He was pursuing a bachelor's of science degree in aeronautics as an online student at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.
Methinks he didn't really get the message. :hmm:
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11B4V

Quote from: Caliga on September 16, 2013, 07:19:30 PM
QuoteBy Monday afternoon, a portrait of Alexis had begun to emerge. He lived until recently in Fort Worth, where he was seen frequently at a Buddhist temple, meditating and helping out. He was pursuing a bachelor's of science degree in aeronautics as an online student at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.
Methinks he didn't really get the message. :hmm:

or a new militant arm of the Buddhists.  :P
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

mongers

Quote from: Caliga on September 16, 2013, 07:19:30 PM
QuoteBy Monday afternoon, a portrait of Alexis had begun to emerge. He lived until recently in Fort Worth, where he was seen frequently at a Buddhist temple, meditating and helping out. He was pursuing a bachelor's of science degree in aeronautics as an online student at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.
Methinks he didn't really get the message. :hmm:

You've not being following the recent news from Burma have you?  :P
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Caliga

I don't care about anything Burma related unless they decide to bring Burma-Shave back. :sleep:
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Caliga on September 16, 2013, 07:19:30 PM
QuoteBy Monday afternoon, a portrait of Alexis had begun to emerge. He lived until recently in Fort Worth, where he was seen frequently at a Buddhist temple, meditating and helping out. He was pursuing a bachelor's of science degree in aeronautics as an online student at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.
Methinks he didn't really get the message. :hmm:
Maybe the temple was run by Sri Lankans?
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 16, 2013, 05:38:51 PM
The DC chief of police is a white chick.  By 250 pound dyke standards she looked pretty good.

She's been around for years; my old boss used to work for her directly.  Smarter than the average female bear. 
I think her husband was a sergeant for the longest time.  Anyway, she outranks the shit out of him.

CountDeMoney


jimmy olsen

#68
Looks like this dude had serious anger management issues.

http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2013/09/16/suspect-in-navy-yard-attack-previously-arrested-in-seattle-for-anger-fueled-shooting/

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Suspect In Navy Yard Attack Previously Arrested In Seattle For "Anger-Fueled" Shooting
Written by Jonah Spangenthal-Lee on September 16, 2013

Aaron Alexis, the man identified by Washington D.C. police as a suspect in this morning's tragic attack on a US Navy Yard, was previously arrested by Seattle police in 2004 for shooting out the tires of another man's vehicle in what Alexis later described to detectives as an anger-fueled "blackout."

Because Seattle police have received numerous inquiries about the incident, we are posting the details, detective logs, and the original report for the May 6, 2004 case.

At about 8 am that morning, two construction workers had parked their 1986 Honda Accord in the driveway of their worksite, next to a home where Alexis was staying in the Beacon Hill neighborhood.

The victims reported seeing a man, later identified by police as Alexis, walk out of the home next to their worksite, pull a gun from his waistband and fire three shots into the two rear tires of their Honda before he walked slowly back to his home north of the construction site.

Officers responded to the scene but were unable to locate Alexis, and no one answered the door at his home.

When detectives interviewed workers and a manager at the construction site, they told police Alexis had "stared" at construction workers at the job site every day over the last month prior to the shooting. The owner of the construction business told police he believed Alexis was angry over the parking situation around the work site.

Detective notes from the incident indicate they made several attempts to contact Alexis by phone and at his work, but eventually found and arrested him outside of his home on June 3rd.

Police then obtained permission to search the home, found a gun and ammunition in Alexis' room, and booked him into the King County Jail for malicious mischief.

Following his arrest, Alexis told detectives he perceived he had been "mocked" by construction workers the morning of the incident and said they had "disrespected him." Alexis also claimed he had an anger-fueled "blackout," and could not remember firing his gun at the victims' vehicle until an hour after the incident.

Alexis also told police he was present during "the tragic events of September 11, 2001″ and described "how those events had disturbed him."

Detectives later spoke with Alexis' father, who lived in New York at the time, who told police Alexis had anger management problems associated with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, and that Alexis had been an active participant in rescue attempts on September 11th, 2001.


Detectives referred the case to the Seattle Municipal Court for charges.

The Seattle Police Department has no further comment on this 2004 incident. PDFs of the original department records can be downloaded here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/aaron-alexis-34-is-dead-gunman-in-navy-yard-shooting-authorities-say/2013/09/16/dcf431ce-1f07-11e3-8459-657e0c72fec8_story_2.html

Quotepage 3...

Soon after, Srisan Somsak, a Thai immigrant in Fort Worth, met Alexis at the Wat Busayadhammavanaram Meditation Center, where Alexis had occasionally practiced meditation starting in the summer of 2010. Alexis said he needed a place to stay, and Somsak offered him a two-bedroom white bungalow a short walk away — if he promised not to smoke or drink. Alexis rented the place for $600 a month and never missed a payment, said Somsak, 57.

"He's a good boy," said Somsak, who spoke halting English. "Everybody would say, 'He's a good boy.' "

Alexis occasionally meditated at the temple and helped there when needed, said Somsak, who was impressed that his tenant studied the Thai language and visited Thailand.

On Monday, as word spread about the shootings, the temple filled with members eager to share recollections of Alexis. "They don't believe it that he could kill 12 people like that," Somsak said. "I think probably somebody tried to put him down. I don't know. Did somebody try to discriminate against him?"

Somsak asked Alexis only once why he had left his job at the naval base. It was a brief conversation.

"I asked him, 'Why you quit the job with the government?' " Somsak said. "He said, 'Somebody doesn't like me.' "

Somsak left it there, he said, because "I don't want to go too deep with him."

Alexis visited the center about twice a week and was known as a quiet, if tightly wound, participant, a temple staff member said.


"He would help people if they came in carrying heavy things," said J. Sirun, an assistant to the monks. "From the outside, he was a quiet person. But on the inside, I think he was very aggressive. He did not like to be close with anybody, like a soldier who has been at war."

Sirun said he avoided Alexis, who preferred to keep to himself. But Alexis was no loner; he had many Thai friends and spoke Thai "very well," Sirun said. "He understood about 75 percent of the language."

Customers saw him studying Thai at a table there during his off hours. Alexis stopped showing up at the Buddhist center early in 2011, he said. "I didn't think he could be this violent," he said. "I would not have been surprised to hear he had committed suicide. But I didn't think he could commit murder."
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
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dps

Obviously, we should ban people from studying the Thai language.

CountDeMoney

QuoteGray said those killed by the shooter ranged in age from 46-73 years old. He said the families of seven of the victims had been notified.
Those victims were identified as:
Michael Arnold, 59;
Sylvia Frasier, 53;
Kathy Gaarde, 62;
John Roger Johnson, 73;
Frank Kohler, 50;
Bernard Proctor, 46;
and Vishnu Pandit, 61.

That's one way to eliminate civilian pensions.

QuoteThe FBI was still interviewing every person leaving the base out of concern that a second suspect may still be at large, French said. And SWAT teams are still finding people hiding in places on the base, where some had remained hunkered down since the initial attack early Monday morning. One city officials said that shortly before 7 p.m., officers found an employee hiding in a locker, where the employee had been for nearly 11 hours.

Talk about shelter-in-place.  Damn.

QuoteAdm. Jonathan W. Greenert, the chief of Naval Operations, was evacuated from his residence at the Navy Yard complex shortly after the first report of shots fired, Navy officials said.

Greenert, a four-star admiral and member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was safely evacuated to the Pentagon along with his wife, Darleen, said Cmdr. Ryan Perry, a Navy spokesman.

And to think, Admiral Wu, the CinC for the PLAN, was just in his office last week during in US tour of naval facilities.  Now that would've made for interesting press.

mongers

Why are events like the naval depot shooting getting wall to wall coverage and outpourings of public grief for the victims ?

I thought the gun debate had been won with the pro side winning, a significant majority of Americans now consistently supporting little or no change to gun rights.
Why not just accept these events are a natural consequence of having so readily available weapons. And it doesn't appear anyone or any organisation can change that. 

So why not just report these events as the 2nd or 3rd news item, give it a couple of minutes and get on reporting and considering the 'real' important news ?

That's unless there isn't some weird grief/breaking news pornography going on, where people actually gain some emotional exercise/workout from reacting to these by now fairly common events ?
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Admiral Yi

Has British media stopped reporting on Syria?

mongers

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 17, 2013, 06:35:44 PM
Has British media stopped reporting on Syria?

A fair bit down certainly, haven't seen enough US coverage to see how they compare.
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citizen k

Quote from: mongers on September 17, 2013, 06:23:47 PM
That's unless there isn't some weird grief/breaking news pornography going on, where people actually gain some emotional exercise/workout from reacting to these by now fairly common events ?

This.