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Shooter at Washington Navy Yard kills 12

Started by jimmy olsen, September 16, 2013, 07:50:41 AM

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mongers

Quote from: citizen k on September 17, 2013, 06:52:10 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 17, 2013, 06:23:47 PM
That's unless there isn't some weird grief/breaking news pornography going on, where people actually gain some emotional exercise/workout from reacting to these by now fairly common events ?

This.

Yeah, which is why I myself has stopped watching these type of events, the 'temptation' is there to indulge so to speak.   
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grumbler

Quote from: citizen k on September 17, 2013, 06:52:10 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 17, 2013, 06:23:47 PM
That's unless there isn't some weird grief/breaking news pornography going on, where people actually gain some emotional exercise/workout from reacting to these by now fairly common events ?

This.
Yep.  That's always been true, and probably always will be.  I don't get the weird darts porn I saw in Britain when I lived there, nor the weird "One Man and His Dog" porn, but there you are.
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Quote from: grumbler on September 17, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
nor the weird "One Man and His Dog" porn, but there you are.
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I have no idea what "Dart porn" is.  The Man/dog thing seems self explanatory.
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mongers

Quote from: grumbler on September 17, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Quote from: citizen k on September 17, 2013, 06:52:10 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 17, 2013, 06:23:47 PM
That's unless there isn't some weird grief/breaking news pornography going on, where people actually gain some emotional exercise/workout from reacting to these by now fairly common events ?

This.
Yep.  That's always been true, and probably always will be.  I don't get the weird darts porn I saw in Britain when I lived there, nor the weird "One Man and His Dog" porn, but there you are.

You regard gun outrages as a form of light entertainment, that figures.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: mongers on September 17, 2013, 06:23:47 PM
Why are events like the naval depot shooting getting wall to wall coverage and outpourings of public grief for the victims ?

It really isn't getting at much wall-to-wall coverage here.  At least, not compared to Sandy Hook.  It's just another mass shooting.

QuoteI thought the gun debate had been won with the pro side winning, a significant majority of Americans now consistently supporting little or no change to gun rights.
Why not just accept these events are a natural consequence of having so readily available weapons. And it doesn't appear anyone or any organisation can change that.

Shootings, and mass shootings in particular, have pretty much become the equivalent of motor vehicle accidents:  somebody is going to die driving to work work tomorrow;  you just hope it's not you or anybody you know, and if there's a mass shooting, you just hope you're not around when whoever it it is finally pops.

It's just an integral part of living in America.

mongers

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2013, 07:21:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 17, 2013, 06:23:47 PM
Why are events like the naval depot shooting getting wall to wall coverage and outpourings of public grief for the victims ?

It really isn't getting at much wall-to-wall coverage here.  At least, not compared to Sandy Hook.  It's just another mass shooting.

QuoteI thought the gun debate had been won with the pro side winning, a significant majority of Americans now consistently supporting little or no change to gun rights.
Why not just accept these events are a natural consequence of having so readily available weapons. And it doesn't appear anyone or any organisation can change that.

Shootings, and mass shootings in particular, have pretty much become the equivalent of motor vehicle accidents:  somebody is going to die driving to work work tomorrow;  you just hope it's not you or anybody you know, and if there's a mass shooting, you just hope you're not around when whoever it it is finally pops.

It's just an integral part of living in America.

So the coverage I see over here, is in large part a reflection of our media's bias/obsession with happenings in America ?
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Sheilbh

Quote from: mongers on September 17, 2013, 07:25:51 PM
So the coverage I see over here, is in large part a reflection of our media's bias/obsession with happenings in America ?
Let's not forget the main domestic news is the Lib Dem conference :lol:
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2013, 07:21:59 PM
work work

Sort of like rape rape?

I take exception to monger's implicit argument that the only thing that renders a shooting story newsworthy is if it leads to stricter gun controls.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: mongers on September 17, 2013, 07:25:51 PM
So the coverage I see over here, is in large part a reflection of our media's bias/obsession with happenings in America ?

More like bias/obsession of how utterly common and fucked up mass shootings in the US may seem to you, :bowler: but it's just another fading topic on the news cycle issue here. 

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Siege

The easiest place to kill people is in a military base.
Nobody is allowed to carry weapons inside.
Criminals and terrorists, who of course don't obey the law, just need to place their weapons under the seats or in the trunk.
Then they can shoot as many people as they want, without fear of one of their victims shooting back.


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Siege

And by the way, the only thing you need for a pass to get on post, is a valid driver license. That's it.


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"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

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Phillip V

Quote from: Siege on September 17, 2013, 09:28:20 PM
And by the way, the only thing you need for a pass to get on post, is a valid driver license. That's it.

And the shooter was a defense contractor with a secret clearance doing IT work. Government really needs to stop handing those out like candy. :mad: