When do things become "recognizably modern" to you?

[Siege]

Reaganomics marks the beginning to the most prosperous age in American history, therefore the modern times. Obamacare marks the beginning of the end.

[Valmy]

Reaganomics marks the beginning to the most prosperous age in American history, therefore the modern times. Obamacare marks the beginning of the end.

So modern times are coming to an end?  Bummer.

[lustindarkness]

Yesterday's tomorrow is no longer what it used to be.

[Queequeg]

Reaganomics marks the beginning to the most prosperous age in American history, therefore the modern times. Obamacare marks the beginning of the end.

[alfred russel]

If we get away from movies, where the technological change skews perceptions, I think Mark Twain has a quite modern outlook.

Pre WWII (and even more so WWI) continental european politics seem quite alien.

[Savonarola]

If we get away from movies, where the technological change skews perceptions, I think Mark Twain has a quite modern outlook.

Pre WWII (and even more so WWI) continental european politics seem quite alien.

To me the 17th century as the age where the modern world begins to become recognizable.  Writers before it, like Shakespeare or Bacon clearly have a very different mindset; while say Voltaire or Alexander Pope have a recognizable outlook.  Seventeenth century thinkers, like Newton, Milton or Descartes are largely creators of what I view as the modern world, but in a large part they belong to the previous age.

[Malthus]

If we get away from movies, where the technological change skews perceptions, I think Mark Twain has a quite modern outlook.

Pre WWII (and even more so WWI) continental european politics seem quite alien.

To me the 17th century as the age where the modern world begins to become recognizable.  Writers before it, like Shakespeare or Bacon clearly have a very different mindset; while say Voltaire or Alexander Pope have a recognizable outlook.  Seventeenth century thinkers, like Newton, Milton or Descartes are largely creators of what I view as the modern world, but in a large part they belong to the previous age.

Newton is a great example: half modern scientist, half medieval alchemist.

[Razgovory]

Reaganomics marks the beginning to the most prosperous age in American history, therefore the modern times. Obamacare marks the beginning of the end.

Man, you really are drinking that kool-aid.

[The Brain]

I have yet to see a half-decent 17th century SF movie.

[Admiral Yi]

The modern age began when coal miners, street peddlers, and janitors took off their suit jackets and started wearing jeans and tshirts.  So some time in the 40's or 50's.

[alfred russel]

If we get away from movies, where the technological change skews perceptions, I think Mark Twain has a quite modern outlook.

Pre WWII (and even more so WWI) continental european politics seem quite alien.

To me the 17th century as the age where the modern world begins to become recognizable.  Writers before it, like Shakespeare or Bacon clearly have a very different mindset; while say Voltaire or Alexander Pope have a recognizable outlook.  Seventeenth century thinkers, like Newton, Milton or Descartes are largely creators of what I view as the modern world, but in a large part they belong to the previous age.

As with so much else, it comes down to how we define the terms...I'd think of modern as a person with a mindset that could relatively easily adopt to the trends of today. I think a Mark Twain could. A Theodore Roosevelt could. I suspect a lot of the political mindset in Europe from 100 years ago could not. I suspect the typical person from the segregated US south could not.


I think the modern capitalistic with elements of democratic socialist / secular / post colonial / largely post nationalistic world would be rather jarring for someone from the 18th century, but I'm really just applying my own definitions.

[Siege]

Reaganomics marks the beginning to the most prosperous age in American history, therefore the modern times. Obamacare marks the beginning of the end.

Man, you really are drinking that kool-aid.

You have been drinking it your whole life, the wrong-wing's Kool-Aid.

[Jacob]

You have been drinking it your whole life, the wrong-wing's Kool-Aid.

Only you and a few others see the real truth.

[Razgovory]

You have been drinking it your whole life, the wrong-wing's Kool-Aid.

Only you and a few others see the real truth.

That the moon landing was a hoax and that black people are evil.

[dps]

You have been drinking it your whole life, the wrong-wing's Kool-Aid.

Only you and a few others see the real truth.

That the moon landing was a hoax and that black people are evil.

Of course they are--they're human beings.