Investment bank intern dies after pulling three all nighters in a row

Started by Syt, August 20, 2013, 11:11:10 PM

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Admiral Yi

Society has nothing to do with it mongers.

The oil industry has rules on sleep because a mistake can kill people and destroy a billion dollars worth of equipment.

Aspiring investment bankers work themselves to death because it's a winner take all market and the winner makes a boatload of money.

mongers

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 21, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
Society has nothing to do with it mongers.

The oil industry has rules on sleep because a mistake can kill people and destroy a billion dollars worth of equipment.

Aspiring investment bankers work themselves to death because it's a winner take all market and the winner makes a boatload of money.

Nope, of course it does.

My opinion, given we live in an energy intensive civilization, is that we need both the safe operation of the energy fields and that the workers should enjoy good pay and working conditions in recognition of their value to society.

Same could be said of doctors and surgeons.

Investment bankers, do I need to reiterate my opinion again, personally I'd see it as a big positive if the lot of them converted to scientology overnight or say all re-trained as telesales cold callers.   :cool:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

garbon

Quote from: mongers on August 21, 2013, 10:41:39 AM

Investment bankers, do I need to reiterate my opinion again, personally I'd see it as a big positive if the lot of them converted to scientology overnight or say all re-trained as telesales cold callers.   :cool:
:huh:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

mongers

Quote from: garbon on August 21, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Quote from: mongers on August 21, 2013, 10:41:39 AM

Investment bankers, do I need to reiterate my opinion again, personally I'd see it as a big positive if the lot of them converted to scientology overnight or say all re-trained as telesales cold callers.   :cool:
:huh:

I admit, I toned it down a lot.  :cool:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Admiral Yi

How is it that we, society, decide the pay of oil workers mongers?

And of course it's well known that medical residents pull barbaric hours.

mongers

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 21, 2013, 10:46:32 AM
How is it that we, society, decide the pay of oil workers mongers?

And of course it's well known that medical residents pull barbaric hours.

I didn't say that society decided the pay.

Also the situation for medical/hospital residents changed about 10-15 years ago, much more sensible. 
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"


garbon

Quote from: mongers on August 21, 2013, 10:48:56 AM
Also the situation for medical/hospital residents changed about 10-15 years ago, much more sensible. 

I know that a lot of places put caps on hours which from interns/residents I know means that they pull various tricks to allow them to still work just as much. However, right now, some of their anecdotes are escaping me.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

mongers

Quote from: garbon on August 21, 2013, 10:57:20 AM
Quote from: mongers on August 21, 2013, 10:48:56 AM
Also the situation for medical/hospital residents changed about 10-15 years ago, much more sensible. 

I know that a lot of places put caps on hours which from interns/residents I know means that they pull various tricks to allow them to still work just as much. However, right now, some of their anecdotes are escaping me.

Obviously I was talking about the situation over here, one of the good things the Blair government did.

But I think there have been issues with the generational change in hospital working practices, I recall one of the problems is now a lack of total hours put in compared to the old more darwinian approach to on the job training.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

alfred russel

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

dps

Quote from: mongers on August 21, 2013, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 21, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
Society has nothing to do with it mongers.

The oil industry has rules on sleep because a mistake can kill people and destroy a billion dollars worth of equipment.

Aspiring investment bankers work themselves to death because it's a winner take all market and the winner makes a boatload of money.

Nope, of course it does.

My opinion, given we live in an energy intensive civilization, is that we need both the safe operation of the energy fields and that the workers should enjoy good pay and working conditions in recognition of their value to society.

Same could be said of doctors and surgeons.



That might be your opinion of how things should be, but it's not how the world works.

mongers

Quote from: dps on August 21, 2013, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 21, 2013, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 21, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
Society has nothing to do with it mongers.

The oil industry has rules on sleep because a mistake can kill people and destroy a billion dollars worth of equipment.

Aspiring investment bankers work themselves to death because it's a winner take all market and the winner makes a boatload of money.

Nope, of course it does.

My opinion, given we live in an energy intensive civilization, is that we need both the safe operation of the energy fields and that the workers should enjoy good pay and working conditions in recognition of their value to society.

Same could be said of doctors and surgeons.



That might be your opinion of how things should be, but it's not how the world works.

How many months, weeks or perhaps days do you think you and our civilization in it's current form, could survive without cheap available energy ?
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Eddie Teach

The oil industry does pay quite well, but it's impossible for them to have good working conditions. It's an inherently dangerous job.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

dps

Quote from: mongers on August 21, 2013, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: dps on August 21, 2013, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 21, 2013, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 21, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
Society has nothing to do with it mongers.

The oil industry has rules on sleep because a mistake can kill people and destroy a billion dollars worth of equipment.

Aspiring investment bankers work themselves to death because it's a winner take all market and the winner makes a boatload of money.

Nope, of course it does.

My opinion, given we live in an energy intensive civilization, is that we need both the safe operation of the energy fields and that the workers should enjoy good pay and working conditions in recognition of their value to society.

Same could be said of doctors and surgeons.



That might be your opinion of how things should be, but it's not how the world works.

How many months, weeks or perhaps days do you think you and our civilization in it's current form, could survive without cheap available energy ?

Not long, of course, but that's not what determines the working conditions of people in that industry.

Caliga

Quote from: alfred russel on August 21, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: The Larch on August 21, 2013, 09:22:30 AM
Once when he was particulary busy he was still working at 22h,

:ph34r:
That sounds like me several nights a week, every week pretty much. :ph34r:

That said, I'm always at home by that time and remoting in.
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