How many people in Quebec are like Viper and Grallon?

[Grallon]

One would imagine patriotism is something American would understand - maybe not cave rats like Raz but the others should be able to grasp the concept.



G.

[garbon]

One would imagine patriotism is something American would understand - maybe not cave rats like Raz but the others should be able to grasp the concept.



G.

If it isn't California or NYC, let it sink into the ocean!

[Ideologue]

And I'm a statist, and find separatism in a utopia like Canada to be so stupid as to be monstrously evil.

[crazy canuck]

Viper and grallon are alike?

Generally no.  But if you have been reading some of Viper's posts over the last couple days you might be forgiven if you thought Grallon had hacked his account.

[Capetan Mihali]

In my experience, 1/3. The other 2/3 are like GF, Rex, Oex and Zoupa. 

I am nationalist myself too.

Rex!

[dps]

One would imagine patriotism is something American would understand - maybe not cave rats like Raz but the others should be able to grasp the concept.



G.

Yeah, but in American terms, Parti Quebecois is a bunch of Jefferson Davis wannabes.

[viper37]

Yeah, but in American terms, Parti Quebecois is a bunch of Jefferson Davis wannabes.

You don't need to be a PQ car carrying member to be patriotic.  Do you think the GOP members watching Fox News are the only ones with patriotic feelings in the US?

[PDH]

Do you think the GOP members watching Fox News are the only ones with patriotic feelings in the US?

Wait, according to them or according to someone with a brain?

[Razgovory]

Yeah, but in American terms, Parti Quebecois is a bunch of Jefferson Davis wannabes.

You don't need to be a PQ car carrying member to be patriotic.  Do you think the GOP members watching Fox News are the only ones with patriotic feelings in the US?

Patriots in the country seldom wish to destroy it.

[Admiral Yi]

One would imagine patriotism is something American would understand - maybe not cave rats like Raz but the others should be able to grasp the concept.

Ethnic nationalism is a fringe concept in the US.

[katmai]

Viva Califas!
Viva Aztlan!

[viper37]

Do you think the GOP members watching Fox News are the only ones with patriotic feelings in the US?

Wait, according to them or according to someone with a brain?

according to them, they are the only ones.  Just like many PQ supporters seems to think, actually

[viper37]

One would imagine patriotism is something American would understand - maybe not cave rats like Raz but the others should be able to grasp the concept.

Ethnic nationalism is a fringe concept in the US.

there's no practical difference between american patriotism and quebec nationalism.  Quebec nationalism isn't "ethnic" by nature, more cultural and territorial.  I'd say it's inclusive, but for those to who it's an insult to be called Québécois.

You can adapt to a culture.  You can learn a language.  You can be a part of a society.  Or you can make the willing choice of living apart.  Like the Shafia family did, never accepting their daughters tolerance of occidental culture.  But it's a choice you make. 

However, when it comes to ethnic nationalism, such as practiced by KKK and other racist groups, you can't chose to be of another skin color or ethnic background.

If some people can not see the difference between Quebec nationalists and KKK, I can not do anything for you.  I am not the one to cure blindness, especially when it is voluntary.

[Neil]

"L'argent et les votes ethniques"

Quebec nationalism is about as exclusionary as you can get.

[viper37]

"L'argent et les votes ethniques"

Quebec nationalism is about as exclusionary as you can get.

Ramblings from one drunk guy who resigned from his job the day after.  In Canada, such a politician would be given a job at the PMO or the Senate.
Let's make comparisons:
Anti-Quebec sentiment

Graham Fraser, an English Canadian journalist noted for his sympathy for Quebec, has tempered both sides. "This phenomenon (of English Canadian Francophobia) exists, I do not doubt it; I have read enough of Alberta Report to know that there are people that think bilingualism is a conspiracy against English Canadians to guarantee jobs for Quebecers — who are all bilingual, anyway.", he wrote. "I have heard enough call-in radio shows to know that these sentiments of fear and rage are not confined to the Canadian west. But I do not think these anti-francophone prejudices dominate the Canadian culture."[110] Fraser, in fact, was himself named as Canada's new Official Languages Commissioner in September 2006.

Even Stephen Harper things that Jane Wong's piece was not just "a simple critic of Quebec's policies".

And you got the reports of the OCOL about compliance with the law on official languages and the status of French in Canada.  Year after years, it seems the same to me.
http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/html/publications_e.php

I will never understand these insistance at keeping two official languages yet doing everything to undermine its application.  Wouldn't it be so simpler for Canada to ditch the policy and stop pretending they care?