Congressman: ‘Fifty Shades’ popularity shows Guantánamo prisoners are ‘phonies’

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Savonarola

Mr. Caulfield goes to Congress:

QuoteCongressman: 'Fifty Shades' popularity shows Guantánamo prisoners are 'phonies'

By CAROL ROSENBERG

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A member of Congress said Tuesday he disclosed the popularity of the erotic sometimes sadomasochistic series Fifty Shades of Grey among Guantánamo's most prized prisoners not to titillate but to set straight for their global followers that they were not devout holy warriors passing their Ramadan reading the Quran.

"It demystifies them. It exposes them for who they actually are,"  said Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va., in a telephone interview that sought to set straight that the captives in the secretive Camp 7 complex are "not exactly holy warriors. Just the opposite. These people are phonies."

Moran first disclosed the reading preference at Guantánamo's most secretive prison, which houses former CIA captives like alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed, to The Huffington Post after a July 26 visit to the base. He said the "factoid" was somehow misinterpreted as salacious, or an abuse of U.S. funds, rather than offering what he called "some profound insight."

"They're not the people anyone should be strapping on suicide vests for. They're not the people who understand Mohammed's meaning more than anyone else," said Moran, adding, "I don't want this seen as I'm trying to manipulate public opinion."

What made the disclosure so odd is that, during media visits to the trailers that house the prison camp's collection of about 18,000 books, many of them religious, the Defense Department contractor in charge, Milton, says he systematically forbids the circulation of books and videos that are either lascivious or exceptionally violent..

The Herald contacted Moran on vacation after a prison camps spokeswoman, Army Capt. Andi Hahn, checked with the Army officer in charge of the detention center library and replied that the Fifty Shades of Grey series is a "prohibited" book.

The Herald asked the congressman whether members of the U.S. military were perhaps playing a practical joke on him inside Camp 7, where the conversation took place.

Camp 7, which is run by a secret separate staff, Task Force Platinum, contains captives who got to Guantánamo in 2006 from years of CIA custody, where at least three were waterboarded. They include the five alleged conspirators in the Sept. 11 terror attacks, who devotedly unfurl their prayer rugs and conduct Muslim prayers at the appointed times inside the war court during pre-trial hearings in their death-penalty cases.

Only members of Congress with security clearance get to see the secret prison.

"I asked, 'What kind of books do they read?' " Moran said Tuesday. "The camp commander said, actually the book in greatest demand is Fifty Shades of Grey — in fact the whole series. They all smiled and nodded and it wasn't as though this was a particular secret."

They also told him, Moran said, that some Camp 7 captives were not observing the Ramadan fast.

Moran said he has long favored exposing the Pentagon prisoners to great works of Western literature, and had asked the same questions in the less secretive prisons containing the 150 or so other prisoners, 84 of them approved for release or transfer in 2010. In those prison, the troops responded more generically that detainees who broke the rules get to keep just two library books in their cells while cooperative, communal captives get to borrow eight at a time.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/06/3546631/congressman-fifty-shades-popularity.html#storylink=cpy

I hope the military was pulling Representative Moran's legs.  These poor souls have suffered enough without having to be exposed to fan-fiction.   :(
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

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Malthus

I thought the thesis should be that, if they like 50 Shades, they like S&M, and so are enjoying their stay in Gitmo.  :P
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frunk

Quote from: Malthus on August 07, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
I thought the thesis should be that, if they like 50 Shades, they like S&M, and so are enjoying their stay in Gitmo.  :P

Because everyone who's a sadist is also a masochist?  Oh, wait, they are reading Fifty Shades so I think it does prove they are masochistic.

Viking

Quote from: Malthus on August 07, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
I thought the thesis should be that, if they like 50 Shades, they like S&M, and so are enjoying their stay in Gitmo.  :P

No, it just showed they get off on humiliating and torturing women.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Viking

Quote from: The Brain on August 07, 2013, 03:17:35 PM
Haven't read Fiddy Shades, but isn't the stuff in there consensual?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfSZ-yb0nu4

I think the fantasy bit is "I wish my wife liked it when I torture her".
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

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11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

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I'm a little disturbed at the prospect of us only holding phony terrorists.
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