Japanese Deputy PM: We should learn from Hitler regarding consitutional changes

Started by Syt, August 01, 2013, 06:59:04 AM

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Syt

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/unfortunate-and-regrettable-japanese-finance-minister-taro-aso-says-he-didnt-mean-to-praise-hitler-8741118.html

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'Unfortunate and regrettable': Japanese finance minister Taro Aso says he didn't mean to praise Hitler

Aso had said Japan could learn from the way the Nazi party stealthily changed Germany's constitution without anyone realising

Japanese finance minister Taro Aso has retracted a comment he made this week suggesting Japan should follow the Nazi example of how to change the country's constitution, following complaints from neighboring countries and human rights activists.

Aso drew outrage for saying Japan should learn from how the Nazi party stealthily changed Germany's constitution before World War II before anyone realized it.

Speaking to reporters, Aso said that he was misunderstood and only meant to say that loud debate over whether Japan should change its postwar constitution to allow a higher profile for the military was not helpful.

"It is very unfortunate and regrettable that my comment regarding the Nazi regime was misinterpreted," Aso told reporters. "I would like to retract the remark about the Nazi regime."

Aso made the comments about Nazi Germany during a speech on Monday in Tokyo organized by an ultra-conservative group.

Critics of the ruling Liberal Democrats are uneasy over the party's proposals for revising the US-inspired postwar constitution, in part to allow a higher profile for Japan's military.

Japan and Nazi Germany were allies in World War II, when Japan occupied much of Asia and Germany much of Europe, where the racial supremacist Nazis oversaw the killings of an estimated 6 million Jews before the war ended in 1945 with their defeat. Japan's military aggression, which included colonizing the Korean Peninsula before the war, is the reason its current constitution limits the role of the military.

According to a transcript of the speech published by the newspaper Asahi Shimbun, Aso decried the lack of support for revising Japan's pacifist constitution among older Japanese, saying the Liberal Democrats held quiet, extensive discussions about its proposals.

"I don't want to see this done in the midst of an uproar," Aso said, according to the transcript. Since revisions of the constitution may raise protests, "Doing it quietly, just as in one day the Weimar constitution changed to the Nazi constitution, without anyone realizing it, why don't we learn from that sort of tactic?"

Aso, who often speaks in a meandering style that has gotten him in trouble for off-the-cuff remarks in the past, also said in the same speech that he did not mean to "deny democracy."

"This is a constitution for all," Aso said. "I just don't want (the revision) to be decided amid a ruckus."

On Thursday, Aso said he referred to the Nazis "as a bad example of a constitutional revision that was made without national understanding or discussion."

"If you listen to the context, it is clear that I have a negative view of how the Weimar constitution got changed by the Nazi regime," he said.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a human rights group dedicated to keeping alive the history of the Holocaust, urged Aso to "immediately clarify" his remarks.

"What 'techniques' from the Nazis' governance are worth learning? How to stealthily cripple democracy?" Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, said in a statement.

"Has Vice Prime Minister Aso forgotten that Nazi Germany's ascendancy to power quickly brought the world to the abyss and engulfed humanity in the untold horrors of World War II?"

In South Korea, Foreign Ministry spokesman Cho Tai-young, said that Aso's remark "will obviously hurt many people."

"I believe Japanese political leaders should be more careful with their words and behavior," Cho said.

In China, which also suffered invasion and occupation by Japanese imperial troops before and during the war, Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the comments showed that "Japan's in Asia, and the international community, have to heighten their vigilance over the direction of Japan's development.
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HVC

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

CountDeMoney

Would've gotten more mileage mentioning Tojo.  That guy never gets props.

Lettow77

It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Valmy

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Lettow77

Japan's conduct toward the French in Indochina was exemplary.

Edit: Besides, the Japanese never committed any misconduct in WW2. It says it like, right there. I've got more of these.
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Neil

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Lettow77 on August 01, 2013, 07:55:51 AM
Japan's conduct toward the French in Indochina was exemplary.

Shame the same can't be said about the Indochinese in Indochina.

QuoteEdit: Besides, the Japanese never committed any misconduct in WW2. It says it like, right there. I've got more of these.

Shut the fuck up.

Josquius

Meh.
The other nations in East Asia do tend to have a real stick up their arse about Japan and live in the past.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Tyr on August 01, 2013, 09:03:59 AM
Meh.
The other nations in East Asia do tend to have a real stick up their arse about Japan and live in the past.

In all fairness, the Japanese have a tendency to poke the others in the eye from time to time as well.

garbon

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Zanza

Quote from: Taro AsoDoing it quietly, just as in one day the Weimar constitution changed to the Nazi constitution, without anyone realizing it, why don't we learn from that sort of tactic?
The Reichstag Fire Decree and especially the Enabling Act were done "quietly" and "without anyone realizing it"? :huh:

Even if the idea wasn't inane by itself, it would just be factually wrong to cite it as an example.

DGuller

Wasn't the problem with Weimer Republic the fact that it had been ineffective at checking the power of the leader from the start?  Obviously Hitler eroded it from there on, but that was just a consequence of the original fundamental weakness.