The Trump administration accidentally texted its War Plans to a journalist

Started by viper37, March 24, 2025, 03:15:44 PM

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Admiral Yi

I have trouble with the notion that when Hillary did it that was white female incompetence.

Norgy

The response after this became public was rather typical. Fake news. Erm. No. Bad journalist. No credibility.


dist

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 25, 2025, 10:47:11 PMI have trouble with the notion that when Hillary did it that was white female incompetence.

On that note, and maybe I'm biased, but this seems so much worse than the whole "but her emails!" affair.

Syt

Quote from: dist on Today at 02:45:59 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 25, 2025, 10:47:11 PMI have trouble with the notion that when Hillary did it that was white female incompetence.

On that note, and maybe I'm biased, but this seems so much worse than the whole "but her emails!" affair.

Yes, but you see this time it's different. Because it's Republicans. Their missteps somehow never seem to incur the outcry or pushback that happen when Democrats do less egregious things. Imagine if Biden or Obama had hosted a sales event for [insert vendor of choice] on the White House lawn and then receved $100M for their coffers. Republicans were crying streams of crocodile tears over Obama's much less problematic post-presidency Netflix deal.
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Razgovory

If this is not classified information, as many in the Trump administration have said, then release it to the public.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: dist on Today at 02:45:59 AMOn that note, and maybe I'm biased, but this seems so much worse than the whole "but her emails!" affair.

I agree, though one could argue about the degree.  Do you have any additional thoughts on the matter you'd like to share that depended on my answer?

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 03:28:51 AMIf this is not classified information, as many in the Trump administration have said, then release it to the public.


Tonto's new hero reads aloud from it if you're interested.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 25, 2025, 09:33:39 PMDoes Hegseth look a lot like Timothy Olyphant or is it just me?
That he looks good on TV is, I think, a not insignificant part of his appeal to Trump, from Sam Adler-Bell:
QuoteAs to why Trump picked him: First, he's Ivy League educated and looks like a movie star (neither of which Trump can resist), and second, while the rest of Fox News Channel was having its whirlwind romance with Ron DeSantis, Hegseth remained a Trump guy and said so on TV over and over.

Same with Vance's Ivy League education - there's no need to play it down with Trump. It's a big appeal to him.

QuoteYes, but you see this time it's different. Because it's Republicans. Their missteps somehow never seem to incur the outcry or pushback that happen when Democrats do less egregious things. Imagine if Biden or Obama had hosted a sales event for [insert vendor of choice] on the White House lawn and then receved $100M for their coffers. Republicans were crying streams of crocodile tears over Obama's much less problematic post-presidency Netflix deal.
I saw someone point out (this is maybe more for the Quo Vadis thread) that Gerry Connolly, the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee last did a media round over a month ago. Again I don't necessarily think AOC and Sanders are "the" answer. But AOC ran for that position and House Democrats went for Connolly. As I say I don't think they're necessarily the answer but I can guarantee that AOC would be a bit more proactive.

Admittedly I believe Connolly has some health problems - but this just goes back to the Democrats not really having an issue with a 75 year old with cancer having a senior leadership role because it's their "turn".

Even with Connolly he's only just become ranking member having served on the Committee for 15 years - but there are other committees with Democrat ranking members for many years and sometimes over a decade. By contrast unless granted a waiver Republicans are limited to a maximum of three consecutive terms or six years as chair which I think is healthier and gives space for the young and hungry types. I get why seniority was useful politically for the Democrats, and particularly Southern Democrats, but I think that sort of thing is an issue. I think the days of very long holding onto those really crucial institutional levers of Congressional power and leadership, based on relationships (perhaps white Southern power gloved in Southern gentility/decorum) need to end.
Let's bomb Russia!