Nevada cops sued: forced occupation of private homes

[Syt]

I think that was meant to be more of a comment about New Jersey/Soviet Union than your honorable profession as a whole.

Then again, maybe not.

[Neil]

Is there any backup mechanism for criminally prosecuting those cops?  I wouldn't really trust my local Beeb to impartially investigate and prosecute cops for pretty much anything.

Fuck you Guller.

Well, I don't.  Even if prosecutors aren't all goo-goo eyed when it comes to cops, there is still a huge practical conflict of interest to overcome.  Prosecutors generally work with cops on the same side, so it's not easy to endanger that relationship unless there is an open-and-shut case of police brutality.  It goes for double in Nevada, which has an atrocious record of prosecuting cops for wrongful deaths at their hands.

They're lawyers.  Betraying people is their nature, sort of like scorpions.

[Eddie Teach]

Is there any backup mechanism for criminally prosecuting those cops?  I wouldn't really trust my local Beeb to impartially investigate and prosecute cops for pretty much anything.

Fuck you Guller.

Yeah, it's Beeb's boss making the calls to treat cops with kid gloves.

[The Minsky Moment]

Creative, but equating police officers with "soldiers" is a stretch.  The National Guard, as the successor to the state Militias, has been held subject to the Third Amendment, but police forces are a different story.

[Barrister]

Is there any backup mechanism for criminally prosecuting those cops?  I wouldn't really trust my local Beeb to impartially investigate and prosecute cops for pretty much anything.

Fuck you Guller.

Well, I don't.  Even if prosecutors aren't all goo-goo eyed when it comes to cops, there is still a huge practical conflict of interest to overcome.  Prosecutors generally work with cops on the same side, so it's not easy to endanger that relationship unless there is an open-and-shut case of police brutality.  It goes for double in Nevada, which has an atrocious record of prosecuting cops for wrongful deaths at their hands.

Again, fuck you.

When jurisdiction have dabbled with hiring independent special prosecutors they run into a pretty fundamental roadblock - your prosecutors have no experience prosecuting, and thus they're not very good at it.

I have no problem telling cops when they've fucked up, and I have some sharply worded emails (sometimes cc'd to superiors, othertimes not) to prove it.

But just to re-assure DG, what happens at least up here is that when cops need to be prosecuted, you get a prosecutor from a different region or jurisdiction.  And while I haven't had to prosecute a cop yet, just a few weeks ago I did prosecute the spouse of another Crown (and I like Crowns more than I like cops).

[derspiess]

Creative, but equating police officers with "soldiers" is a stretch.  The National Guard, as the successor to the state Militias, has been held subject to the Third Amendment, but police forces are a different story.

Where would paramilitary organizations fall?

[grumbler]

Where would paramilitary organizations fall?

They'd fall downward.  An updraft might lift them for a bit, but the general trend would inevitably be downward.

[derspiess]

Teacher jokes 

[The Minsky Moment]

Where would paramilitary organizations fall?

Don't know - this doesn't get litigated a lot.
In this case, there are a lot of other violations in play other than the 3rd amendment.

[DGuller]

Teacher jokes 

I actually never heard that one before.  I never appreciated how lucky I was. 

[stjaba]

Creative, but equating police officers with "soldiers" is a stretch.  The National Guard, as the successor to the state Militias, has been held subject to the Third Amendment, but police forces are a different story.

I think there's a case from the 1970's that involves prison guards "occupying" civilian homes in the context of a prison riot. I forget if the court that heard the case found that the 3rd Amendment applied.


Edit: Was confused, the case I was thinking had to do with national guard troops being utilized to replace striking prison guards, so we are probably thinking about same case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engblom_v._Carey

Apparently it's the only reported appellate decision on the 3rd Amendment.

[grumbler]

Teacher jokes 

Para jokes. 

[DontSayBanana]

Just out of curiosity, why would they go with a quartering argument, as opposed to, say, eminent domain?

[dps]

Just out of curiosity, why would they go with a quartering argument, as opposed to, say, eminent domain?

I'd think issue would be unreasonable search and seizure.  Don't know if the police actually searched the place, but they did sieze it.

[Razgovory]

I'm sorta of curious who signed off on such a stupid plan.  Or if anyone signed off on it.  Either way, the chief of police should have to answer of something.  It's genuinely bizarre behavior and I have no idea why they thought they could get away with it.