U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month

[CountDeMoney]

You're all a bunch of paranoid fruitcakes.

The only people the US government is interested in or worried about in Germany are the massive herds of wild Islamotards you goofs let live in your countries and plot against the Great Santa. 
And Germany just happens to have had the most since 9/11.

Published: June 25, 2013
BERLIN — Scores of special police officers raided at least nine sites in southern Germany and Belgium on Tuesday after what German authorities said was a tip to an alleged Islamist plot involving two men of Tunisian origin planning to stage terrorist attacks involving explosives and remote-controlled model airplanes.

Hey, holy shit!  Fucking imagine that shit!  And gee, I wonder who could've possibly have helped out.

[Ed Anger]

R/C aircraft enthusiasts are weird.

[CountDeMoney]

MEIN R/C BISMARCK

[Zanza]

You're all a bunch of paranoid fruitcakes.

You are the ones that have intelligence agencies tracking your every communication, that have metal detectors and armed guards in schools, that will soon have police drones supervising you, that have TSA agents groping you when you want to fly, that buy hundreds of millions of handguns, that militarize their Southern border, imprison harmless people for years and decades... etc. etc. etc. and we are paranoid? America is completely goofy about "security". It seems that no matter what your government does in the name of security, it always finds enough cheerleaders to keep on doing it. And that's because your society seems to have an inordinate amount of fear of everything. Paranoia.

[CountDeMoney]

You are the ones that have intelligence agencies tracking your every communication, that have metal detectors and armed guards in schools, that will soon have police drones supervising you, that have TSA agents groping you when you want to fly, that buy hundreds of millions of handguns, that militarize their Southern border, imprison harmless people for years and decades... etc. etc. etc. and we are paranoid? America is completely goofy about "security". It seems that no matter what your government does in the name of security, it always finds enough cheerleaders to keep on doing it. And that's because your society seems to have an inordinate amount of fear of everything. Paranoia.

That's not paranoia.  That's snuggling in the cozy embrace of the warm, loving blanket of American security.

[Tonitrus]

You're all a bunch of paranoid fruitcakes.

You are the ones that have intelligence agencies tracking your every communication, that have metal detectors and armed guards in schools, that will soon have police drones supervising you, that have TSA agents groping you when you want to fly, that buy hundreds of millions of handguns, that militarize their Southern border, imprison harmless people for years and decades... etc. etc. etc. and we are paranoid? America is completely goofy about "security". It seems that no matter what your government does in the name of security, it always finds enough cheerleaders to keep on doing it. And that's because your society seems to have an inordinate amount of fear of everything. Paranoia.

Rightly so. 

[alfred russel]

In the end we'll all do the same. You spy us, we spy you. It's only a matter of time.

You gotta love the fake outrage of EU politicians though. If they were intent on stopping this, there a very easy first measure: blacklisting American companies from any service dealing with critical info. That'd be billions lost for Amazon, Citrix, VMware, Microsoft, Oracle, Google ...

Hopefully they will make that threat. It could change discussion over here.

[CountDeMoney]

In the end we'll all do the same. You spy us, we spy you. It's only a matter of time.

You gotta love the fake outrage of EU politicians though. If they were intent on stopping this, there a very easy first measure: blacklisting American companies from any service dealing with critical info. That'd be billions lost for Amazon, Citrix, VMware, Microsoft, Oracle, Google ...

I think it's hilarious that it hasn't entered into anybody's minds over there that the German intelligence community doesn't get access to intelligence gathering means from its allies.

Because, hey, we all know the western intelligence community never, ever, ever works together.

[Zanza]

And that makes it better somehow? I don't want your or my government to have such information.

[Razgovory]

And that makes it better somehow? I don't want your or my government to have such information.

Then that's something you should take up with your government.

[Syt]

And that makes it better somehow? I don't want your or my government to have such information.

Then that's something you should take up with your government.

The Merkel regime (or any party, really) isn't the right addressee for that. They consider the interwebs as a newfangled thing that is the realm of nerds and pedophiles. "The internet is a new territory for everyone."

[CountDeMoney]

And that makes it better somehow? I don't want your or my government to have such information.

Save the umbrage for the private sector, which is doing a lot more with your personal information than any government could.

[Admiral Yi]

I think we will end up not doing this stuff anymore in some countries, like Germany.

[The Brain]

I think we will end up not doing this stuff anymore in some countries, like Germany.

When the sun grows big and swallows us?

[Admiral Yi]

When the sun grows big and swallows us?

In the near future.  Within a year say.