DoJ to Snowden: Hope your 15 minutes were worth it, pal

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Eddie Teach

#30
June 23, 2013, 07:45:40 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 23, 2013, 07:39:55 AM
We really have no place in this great game between superpowers.  Getting him to leave peacefully is probably best.

:huh:

You guys passed Russia long ago.
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Monoriu

#31
June 23, 2013, 07:46:51 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 23, 2013, 07:45:40 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 23, 2013, 07:39:55 AM
We really have no place in this great game between superpowers.  Getting him to leave peacefully is probably best.

:huh:

You guys passed Russia long ago.

"We" = Hong Kong.

Eddie Teach

#32
June 23, 2013, 07:49:03 AM
Isn't it ultimately up to Beijing whether he'd be allowed to stay or not?
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Monoriu

#33
June 23, 2013, 07:55:01 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 23, 2013, 07:49:03 AM
Isn't it ultimately up to Beijing whether he'd be allowed to stay or not?

It is a lot more complicated than that.  Of course we won't go against Beijing's wishes.  But our interests and Beijing's aren't exactly idential.  We don't want to do anything to piss off the Americans (too much).  We are bound by our courts' rulings, as well as our separate treaties with the US.  Beijing may or may not want to keep him, but we want to get rid of him so that we aren't caught up in this anymore.  You two fight it out, we just want business as usual.

Liep

#34
June 23, 2013, 01:03:44 PM
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CountDeMoney

#35
June 23, 2013, 01:07:52 PM Last Edit: June 23, 2013, 01:27:01 PM by CountDeMoney
Talking heads are wondering why the State Department didn't suspend his visa, so he would be forced to stay put wherever he was.

You'd think that would be SOP.

edit: passport, not visa.

Admiral Yi

#36
June 23, 2013, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 23, 2013, 07:39:55 AM
We really have no place in this great game between superpowers.  Getting him to leave peacefully is probably best.

If it turns out that HK was served an extradition request and then let him out the back door, that will have been much more than strict neutrality.

jimmy olsen

#38
June 23, 2013, 05:20:43 PM
 :lmfao:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/23/19102907-why-would-edward-snowden-seek-asylum-in-ecuador?lite

QuoteAssange is now lending his support to  Snowden.

"He is bound for a democratic nation via a safe route for the purposes of asylum, and is being escorted by diplomats and legal advisors from WikiLeaks," the anti-secrecy group said in a statement, noting that they are giving the one-time CIA contractor legal counsel. "Once Mr. Snowden arrives in Ecuador his request will be formally processed."
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garbon

#39
June 23, 2013, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2013, 05:20:43 PM
:lmfao:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/23/19102907-why-would-edward-snowden-seek-asylum-in-ecuador?lite

QuoteAssange is now lending his support to  Snowden.

"He is bound for a democratic nation via a safe route for the purposes of asylum, and is being escorted by diplomats and legal advisors from WikiLeaks," the anti-secrecy group said in a statement, noting that they are giving the one-time CIA contractor legal counsel. "Once Mr. Snowden arrives in Ecuador his request will be formally processed."

If you'd bother to read the last article you posted, you'd have already seen that. :rolleyes:
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jimmy olsen

#40
June 23, 2013, 05:43:38 PM
That article has been massively updated since I posted it last night. It was basically six lines that said he left Hong Kong, maybe for Moscow. Nothing about Wikileaks.
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Monoriu

#41
June 23, 2013, 07:01:35 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 23, 2013, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 23, 2013, 07:39:55 AM
We really have no place in this great game between superpowers.  Getting him to leave peacefully is probably best.

If it turns out that HK was served an extradition request and then let him out the back door, that will have been much more than strict neutrality.

We did receive an extradition request.  But our lawyers say it wasn't up to our legal standards.  So we sought clairification from the US.  He left before we received such clarification.  Therefore, the extradition request that we received wasn't valid :contract:

CountDeMoney

#42
June 23, 2013, 07:05:00 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 23, 2013, 07:01:35 PM
We did receive an extradition request.  But our lawyers say it wasn't up to our legal standards.  So we sought clairification from the US.  He left We allowed him to leave before we received such clarification.  Therefore, the extradition request that we received wasn't valid because we're spineless little pussies that will have to deal with the blowback from the US at a time of their choosing. :contract:

Admiral Yi

#43
June 23, 2013, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 23, 2013, 07:01:35 PM
We did receive an extradition request.  But our lawyers say it wasn't up to our legal standards.  So we sought clairification from the US.  He left before we received such clarification.  Therefore, the extradition request that we received wasn't valid :contract:

Oh well, that makes it all OK then.  :lol:

Grey Fox

#44
June 23, 2013, 07:51:26 PM
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