The future George Zimmerman Acquittal Trial Megathread!

Started by CountDeMoney, June 20, 2013, 06:21:57 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Berkut on June 29, 2013, 10:07:06 AM
I don't disagree with anything you are saying, except that this version of events requires the state to prove a LOT more in order to get a conviction.

And without any evidence to counter Zimmermans version of events, I don't see how they can do that.

Unfortunately, that's kinda what happens when the victim is really the one on trial.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 28, 2013, 09:49:46 PM
Don't be putting this all on The Most Reverend Al because Sanford PD and the SA's Office were cowardly weasels that didn't want to do their jobs.

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on June 29, 2013, 10:35:05 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 28, 2013, 09:49:46 PM
Don't be putting this all on The Most Reverend Al because Sanford PD and the SA's Office were cowardly weasels that didn't want to do their jobs.

RESIST WE MUCH

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derspiess

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derspiess

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Berkut

Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 29, 2013, 10:23:51 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 29, 2013, 10:07:06 AM
I don't disagree with anything you are saying, except that this version of events requires the state to prove a LOT more in order to get a conviction.

And without any evidence to counter Zimmermans version of events, I don't see how they can do that.

Unfortunately, that's kinda what happens when the victim is really the one on trial.

No, that's kind of what happens when the only person who is testifying as to what happened seems to be saying that the accused version of events is basically accurate, and that version makes it seem like he was defending himself.

I don't see this playing out any differently if Zimmerman was black and Martin was white, but all the facts and testimony stays the same.
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Kleves

Quote from: Berkut on June 29, 2013, 04:14:20 PM
I don't see this playing out any differently if Zimmerman was black and Martin was white, but all the facts and testimony stays the same.
Might not have been any charges at all in that case, as it probably wouldn't have gotten the same publicity.
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Razgovory

It would have simply gotten the charges and not the publicity.
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Admiral Yi

I think regardless of the races, someone shoots an unarmed kid it's going to get publicity.

11B4V

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2013, 04:40:43 PM
I think regardless of the races, someone shoots an unarmed kid it's going to get publicity.

Sure it will, then add the race card and it explodes.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2013, 04:40:43 PM
I think regardless of the races, someone shoots an unarmed kid it's going to get publicity.

National publicity?  Probably not.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Razgovory

Quote from: 11B4V on June 29, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2013, 04:40:43 PM
I think regardless of the races, someone shoots an unarmed kid it's going to get publicity.

Sure it will, then add the race card and it explodes.

http://www.wral.com/texas-man-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder-in-durham-parking-lot-shooting/12404258/

Man shoots teen, claims self defense.  No national publicity, no explosion.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on June 29, 2013, 05:13:03 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 29, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2013, 04:40:43 PM
I think regardless of the races, someone shoots an unarmed kid it's going to get publicity.

Sure it will, then add the race card and it explodes.

http://www.wral.com/texas-man-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder-in-durham-parking-lot-shooting/12404258/

Man shoots teen, claims self defense.  No national publicity, no explosion.

Different than Trayvon Case. Did you read it or just pull the first headline after googling it.  :rolleyes:
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

QuoteMan shoots teen, claims self defense.  No national publicity, no explosion.

From what I understand the police did such a sloppy job initially in the Trayvon case, The Rev Al weighed in. Rightfully so IMO.



"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".