Exodus International Shuts Down

[Razgovory]

Enough to keep the current population of gays stable?

[Valmy]

Enough to keep the current population of gays stable?

Depends on how motivated they are

But they could.

[Razgovory]

Enough to keep the current population of gays stable?

Depends on how motivated they are

But they could.

They could, but they won't.  You and I both know that.

[merithyn]

They could, but they won't.  You and I both know that.

You claim to know an awful lot about something no one else would dare claim.

[Maximus]

I imagine by the time such a "cure" is available to the masses few will care enough to use it.

[merithyn]

I imagine by the time such a "cure" is available to the masses few will care enough to use it.

God, I hope so!

[Barrister]

I imagine by the time such a "cure" is available to the masses few will care enough to use it.

I wonder about that - I might think that if you offered a gay person a complications-free way of becoming "normal" a non-insignificant number of them would take it.

As you can see from groups like Exodus there are gays who wish they weren't.  And in general, people are often not satisfied with themselves and will go to great length, including therapy, pills, and surgery, to re-make themselves.

[Valmy]

I imagine by the time such a "cure" is available to the masses few will care enough to use it.

Eh plenty of the masses today are not as petrified of having gay kids as Raz seems to think they are.

[Jacob]

You may be right BB, but I doubt it would be a one way street if it was that trivial a choice to make.

[merithyn]

I imagine by the time such a "cure" is available to the masses few will care enough to use it.

I wonder about that - I might think that if you offered a gay person a complications-free way of becoming "normal" a non-insignificant number of them would take it.

As you can see from groups like Exodus there are gays who wish they weren't.  And in general, people are often not satisfied with themselves and will go to great length, including therapy, pills, and surgery, to re-make themselves.

Given that so many prefer to try to be "normal" due to external pressure, take away the pressure and the numbers will likely dwindle... don't you think?

[merithyn]

You may be right BB, but I doubt it would be a one way street if it was that trivial a choice to make.

I wonder how many fathers would want their daughters to be lesbians.

[Neil]

I'm just saying, if you can cure homosexuality at conception as if you were selecting eye colour or that sort of thing, how many parents wouldn't check the box to have a normal, healthy child rather than a Martinus-esque monster?

[Valmy]

Given that so many prefer to try to be "normal" due to external pressure, take away the pressure and the numbers will likely dwindle... don't you think?

Heh.  If there was a complication-free way of hopping between sexual orientations the numbers doing so would probably explode.  But probably not for the reasons BB and you as suggesting.

[merithyn]

Given that so many prefer to try to be "normal" due to external pressure, take away the pressure and the numbers will likely dwindle... don't you think?

Heh.  If there was a complication-free way of hopping between sexual orientations the numbers doing so would probably explode.  But probably not for the reasons BB and you as suggesting.

I admit that there have been times that I'd wished that I were bisexual, but usually that came after a bad breakup with a really crappy guy... 

[Valmy]

I admit that there have been times that I'd wished that I were bisexual, but usually that came after a bad breakup with a really crappy guy... 

There were times when I would stop and think 'could dating men really be worse than this?' and conclude it very possibly might be

But hey I would have had a chance to test that out.  I can see the profiles on match.com now 'Man seeking women on odd days, men on even days'