AGEOD to make American Civil War II

[Syt]

Languish has always been full of nattering nabobs of negativity, but I find in recent months it's become worse. Or I'm just noticing it more.

[Razgovory]

The North had such great advantages in 1862 that they should have run all over the South.  Properly organized they can.  Still, it does make for a crappy gaming experience.

In the west they did sorta...even with morons like Halleck and Buell in charge.

I was under the impression that under Burnside they formed massive "grand divisions".  It didn't work, but that might just be because Burnside not that good at organizing things.

[Tamas]

Languish has always been full of nattering nabobs of negativity, but I find in recent months it's become worse. Or I'm just noticing it more.

Yeah.

Anyways, I really should not get involved in this discussion, as I cannot really be labelled objective on it anymore , but I really don`t get Habbaku`s disdain of the AGEOD games.

[Razgovory]

Languish has always been full of nattering nabobs of negativity, but I find in recent months it's become worse. Or I'm just noticing it more.

Well the first Civil War game sucked when I played it several years ago.  The tutorial was insufficient and Jeff Davis attacking Buffalo, New York.

[garbon]

but I really don`t get Habbaku`s disdain of the AGEOD games.

To me it is because they are always great concepts but I don't trust AGEOD to fully realize them. Always seem to miss the mark with mechanics, balance and then of course - graphics.

[Berkut]

but I really don`t get Habbaku`s disdain of the AGEOD games.

To me it is because they are always great concepts but I don't trust AGEOD to fully realize them. Always seem to miss the mark with mechanics, balance and then of course - graphics.

Pretty much.

But I am the eternal optimist.

Tamas, if you are playing, please do provide any feedback/reviews. I still want there to be a good US ACW strat game...

[Tamas]

but I really don`t get Habbaku`s disdain of the AGEOD games.

To me it is because they are always great concepts but I don't trust AGEOD to fully realize them. Always seem to miss the mark with mechanics, balance and then of course - graphics.

Pretty much.

But I am the eternal optimist.

Tamas, if you are playing, please do provide any feedback/reviews. I still want there to be a good US ACW strat game...

I cannot really be considered an objective source of info on these games anymore, so do consider that.

That said, it is easily the biggest and best ACW game I have ever tried. The scale is operational, with also the western theatre included, and with the regional decision system used, it does get a strategic depth not just in terms of "global" decisions you can make (in the ledger, much like events, or the national decisions in the EU games), but also on the local level as well. Mining coastal seas, inciting your supporters to hold demonstrations (as the South IIRC), spawn partisan units behind enemy lines (in provinces with enough support left for your side), which partisans in turn can be used to trigger a couple of other decisions about raids, and interrupting the movement of enemy stacks. Also there are decisions on improving roads, clearing terrain to improve development level so troops and supply move faster, etc.

And of course you need to balance your manpower reserves, war supplies, "engagement points" (sort of currency used to trigger decisions), money, and national will as well. You can build new units (lots of them with different uniforms according to their states, if applicable, plus special units like Sharpshooters, signal companies, etc), and/or need to spend manpower and war materials on replacements as well (this can be automated to different degrees in the options - more automation means less micromanagement, but might not have enough resources left for a new unit when you want to build it).

The AI is decent, with a hint of overagression that will be addressed in the first patch.

With all the above of course comes the fact that it is a complex game, but IMHO the new UI makes a good job of keeping it obvious.

[garbon]

I like this email that AGEOD sent me:

Dear Ageod Gamer, 

as someone who has previously purchased one of our games we wanted to let you know some great news. We have just released Civil War II, in association with the Civil War Trust, which is a complete make over of our classic American Civil War game from 2007!