2016 elections - because it's never too early

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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on April 04, 2016, 06:09:13 PM
What news is there that hasn't been said about Sanders?

That he is stopping the 'biatch' apparently  :rolleyes:

Anyway even though he seems to dominate the news there is a big conspiracy against him. Because the only reason Americans would not support a socialist would be because the news media is not reporting him enough.
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Quote from: Valmy on April 04, 2016, 10:04:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 04, 2016, 06:09:13 PM
What news is there that hasn't been said about Sanders?

That he is stopping the 'biatch' apparently  :rolleyes:

Anyway even though he seems to dominate the news there is a big conspiracy against him. Because the only reason Americans would not support a socialist would be because the news media is not reporting him enough.

His followers can be that dumb, that's acceptable.  They are young.  For him to be that dumb is not.  I mean, when he voices the idea that the GOP would only be a marginal party  of 5%-10% of the public were not for corporations doing the heavy lifting, it is inexcusable.  A full grown man should know better.  I mean, Hans used to say silly bullshit like that.
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Martinus

Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
Or someone writing for Slate couldn't get basic facts straight.

Surely that's not that.

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celedhring

Quote from: Valmy on April 04, 2016, 10:04:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 04, 2016, 06:09:13 PM
What news is there that hasn't been said about Sanders?

That he is stopping the 'biatch' apparently  :rolleyes:

Anyway even though he seems to dominate the news there is a big conspiracy against him. Because the only reason Americans would not support a socialist would be because the news media is not reporting him enough.

Most of the Sanderites in my environment seem to think that the media "conspiracy" is how all media report that Sanders candidacy is a losing candidacy, rather than not being reported. That is a more respectable point of view, media have a pretty big role in creating the narrative and there's no denying that. I happen to agree with the media here though (and I wish I was wrong and Sanders was viable).

Martinus

One thing that definitely skews the perception against Sanders is reporting on super delegates.

garbon

Super delegates aren't new and if people can't think critically about them / recall them from prior elections then they are idiots.

Also most outlets actually note how many are pledged delegates and how many are super delegates. Though I don't see why that matters so much still given that pledged delegates are also in Clinton's favour.
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Martinus

Most people do not follow the process that close - also I don't think people who are fooled by objectively misleading media reporting are "idiots".

But then, given your past track record, I don't think you value truth a lot.

garbon

Quote from: celedhring on April 05, 2016, 01:50:46 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 04, 2016, 10:04:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 04, 2016, 06:09:13 PM
What news is there that hasn't been said about Sanders?

That he is stopping the 'biatch' apparently  :rolleyes:

Anyway even though he seems to dominate the news there is a big conspiracy against him. Because the only reason Americans would not support a socialist would be because the news media is not reporting him enough.

Most of the Sanderites in my environment seem to think that the media "conspiracy" is how all media report that Sanders candidacy is a losing candidacy, rather than not being reported. That is a more respectable point of view, media have a pretty big role in creating the narrative and there's no denying that. I happen to agree with the media here though (and I wish I was wrong and Sanders was viable).

Of course the same media had some gushing articles on nights when Sanders won. Like say Minnesota where it was then like OMG could this be a reversal of trends for Sanders?!
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garbon

Quote from: Martinus on April 05, 2016, 02:52:16 AM
Most people do not follow the process that close - also I don't think people who are fooled by objectively misleading media reporting are "idiots".

But then, given your past track record, I don't think you value truth a lot.

I think people who vote shouldn't be treated like infants who forget what primary elections are like in the 4 years between each one but your mileage may vary.

Oh and I see you had no response to the fact that the media is actually separating out the two totals. I think it would be stranger to simply not mention the super delegates given they are part of the process...
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