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Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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Admiral Yi


Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 30, 2016, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 30, 2016, 03:50:31 PM
I think he is trying to repeat the 'green jobs' gag.

What's that?

Obama said something way back either when he first became President or during the campaign about how he would help solve the unemployment problem by creating more green jobs. So it became a running gag for a few years about that being the solution to various things.
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Razgovory

And why has Obama stopped blaming Bush for the economy? 
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 30, 2016, 03:47:44 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 30, 2016, 03:41:23 PM
Just be honest and tape your woman card to your bumper.

I appreciate your efforts to fill the Martinus sized void in our lives.

poke, poke.  jab, jab.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: derspiess on June 30, 2016, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 30, 2016, 03:47:44 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 30, 2016, 03:41:23 PM
Just be honest and tape your woman card to your bumper.

I appreciate your efforts to fill the Martinus sized void in our lives.

poke, poke.  jab, jab.

kind and sensitive person.
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garbon

Apparently Trump is now fearful of Mexican planes attacking.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: garbon on July 01, 2016, 01:49:54 AM
Apparently Trump is now fearful of Mexican planes attacking.

That's how Red Dawn started.

mongers

Quote from: garbon on July 01, 2016, 01:49:54 AM
Apparently Trump is now fearful of Mexican planes attacking.

Does Mexico have a functioning airforce capable of operating beyond it's border?

I thought it was all OV10Ds, A37Bs and O2As doing COIN in the drugs war?
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Razgovory

Trump campaign:  A safe space for Right wingers.

QuoteStatesboro, Ga. — DEPENDING on whom you ask, political correctness is either an effort to expunge offensive expression from our culture, or it's a weapon fashioned by the left to brainwash the next generation. If you believe the right-wing media, the next generation's brains have already been sufficiently washed: The internet is flooded with disparaging articles about "trigger warnings," "microaggressions" and "safe spaces" where, the right charges, frail young liberals seek shelter from unpleasant realities.

I could not help but think of that idea, the "safe space," during a recent assignment to cover a Trump rally at the Coliseum Complex in Greensboro, N.C. Inside the auditorium, men gleefully referred to Hillary Clinton with misogynistic slurs; those same smears were printed on T-shirts sold by vendors outside. The men and women sporting them were constantly being pulled into photographs with their fellow Trump supporters, all of them slinging their arms around one another and flashing smiles and thumbs up.

Seemingly emboldened by the atmosphere of serial transgression, a man a few feet away from me answered a warm-up speaker's call for solidarity with the victims of the massacre in Orlando, Fla., by shouting, "The gays had it coming!"

As expected, Donald J. Trump's speech that night paid necessary lip service to those victims, but he wasted no time in blaming the tragedy on political correctness, which, he explained, was "deadly" and kept people from talking about the problem of violent extremism. Like most of his directionless ramblings, the rhetoric was short on specifics and heavy on blame, of which there was plenty to go around — Mrs. Clinton, President Obama, Muslims, liberals and pretty much everyone else save for the sort of people represented by that night's crowd.

When Mr. Trump left the stage and the doors opened, I found myself in a glut of supporters streaming into the parking lot. As vendors hawked T-shirts by yelling, "Hillary sucks!" the people — more than a few of whom appeared inebriated — were discussing such worthy topics as the untrustworthiness of most Latinos, the inhumanity of immigrants and the racial epithets they'd used when Mr. Trump had referred to Mr. Obama as "one hell of a lousy president."

They were pumped up by the speech, but it was more than that. Their voices were clear and unabashed. There was a noticeable comfort, as if they had been encouraged by not just Mr. Trump's rhetoric but also their shared proximity to so many people of a similar mind.

And then it dawned on me: For them the arena, and then the parking lot, had become their own safe spaces, where these people, who had long been reined in by changing societal expectations and especially the heavy burden of political correctness, felt they were finally free of the ridiculous expectations of overly sensitive liberals.

At the same time there was an overt hostility to dissent and difference. At one point a man standing nearby looked me over and said, "You don't look right." I had no doubt that, had I suggested that Mrs. Clinton was not in fact a lesbian communist, I'd have been forcibly removed, or worse. And I saw cars of supporters hurling slurs at a passing motorist waving a Mexican flag out his driver's-side window.

For a good stretch of my five-hour drive home, I chewed over the great mystery that is the Trump phenomenon. The media has questioned incessantly why people flock to his campaign. Mr. Trump isn't particularly magnetic or even that compelling — his speeches are loud, but so dull and tiring that great swaths of his crowds head for the doors early.

Perhaps the appeal lies elsewhere. Maybe all this electoral chaos has been sown as an excuse to gather in public, under the guise of civil engagement, to say the vile, hateful things that the majority of the country has long shunned. It's not about Mr. Trump; he's just the cover, the cheerleader, not the quarterback.

In a perverse way, many Trump supporters want what they criticize: the sense of winning that seems to be the sole preserve of the cultural elite, the ability to set the terms of discussion, the freedom to speak their minds and not face criticism. Whether it's same-sex marriage, the last two presidential elections or the Confederate battle flag (several of which I saw at the rally), they have not won in such a long time.

Commentators have tried to cast Mr. Trump as a master manipulator, using his supporters to carry him to the White House but having no real interest in improving their lives. That may be his intention. But the reality is the other way around: His supporters are using him. Indeed, as I got in my car to drive home, I realized that since leaving the coliseum, of all the things I had heard people say, there was one phrase I hadn't heard his supporters utter even once: Donald Trump's name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/opinion/is-the-trump-campaign-just-a-giant-safe-space-for-the-right.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Tonitrus on July 01, 2016, 05:23:12 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 01, 2016, 01:49:54 AM
Apparently Trump is now fearful of Mexican planes attacking.

That's how Red Dawn started.

Nah, first wave of the attack came in disguised as commercial charter flights, same way they did in Afghanistan in '80.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 01, 2016, 11:34:08 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 01, 2016, 05:23:12 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 01, 2016, 01:49:54 AM
Apparently Trump is now fearful of Mexican planes attacking.

That's how Red Dawn started.

Nah, first wave of the attack came in disguised as commercial charter flights, same way they did in Afghanistan in '80.

So that's what hit Calumet.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Legbiter

The FBI will be interviewing Clinton tomorrow.  :hmm:

QuotePresumptive Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is scheduled to meet with the FBI on Saturday about her use of a private email server while she worked as secretary of state.

A source told The Daily Caller Friday that the interview will take place in Washington, D.C.

The interview is likely to be the final step in the probe into whether Clinton mishandled any potential classified information.

The server was located in her Chappaqua, N.Y., home.

The FBI has already interviewed several Clinton aides, including her deputy chief of staff Huma Abedin.

This comes the same day as Attorney General Loretta Lynch said she regrets meeting with former President Bill Clinton amid the probe into his wife's private email server — and will accept whatever determination is made by the investigators.

Lynch has faced a storm of criticism after it was revealed she met with Bill Clinton at a Phoenix airport earlier in the week.

"I certainly wouldn't do it again because I think it has cast this shadow over what it should not, over what it will not touch," Lynch said Friday during an appearance at the Aspen Ideas Festival.

"It's important to make it clear that that meeting with President Clinton does not have a bearing on how this matter will be reviewed and resolved."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-interviewed-fbi-email-server-article-1.2696200?utm_content=buffer6d4dc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw
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